Exploring CTensor & Schwarzschild Metric in Maxima

In summary: This means that there is an extended inertial coordinate system which is not spherically symmetric, and which has the same metric as the interior Schwarzschild coordinate system. The perihelion position of Mercury depends on the mass of the Sun, just as it does outside the Sun. However, because the Schwarzschild metric is spherically symmetric, the perihelion position of Mercury is independent of the mass of the Sun.
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playing around with ctensor & the Schwarzschild metric in Maxima

what is the difference between interior and exterior Schwarzschild metrics?
exteriorschwarzschild 4 [t,r,theta,phi] Schwarzschild metric
interiorschwarzschild 4 [t,z,u,v] Interior Schwarzschild metric

also when with the exterior Schwarzschild metric the scalar curvature is zero - this cannot be right, can it?

Function: scurvature ()
Returns the scalar curvature (obtained by contracting the Ricci tensor) of the Riemannian manifold with the given metric.
 
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BWV said:
what is the difference between interior and exterior Schwarzschild metrics?

The exteior solution is the vacuum solution outside a spherically symmetric mass distribution. The interior solution represents the interior of a static constant density mass. See

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=323684.
BWV said:
also when with the exterior Schwarzschild metric the scalar curvature is zero - this cannot be right, can it?

Any vacuum solution has [itex]R = 0[/itex]. This does not necessarily mean that the curvature tensor is zero. Exterior Schwarzschild has [itex]R = 0[/itex] with non-zero curvature tensor.
 
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George Jones said:
The exteior solution is the vacuum solution outside a spherically symmetric mass distribution. The interior solution represents the interior of a static constant density mass. See

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=323684.


Any vacuum solution has [itex]R = 0[/itex]. This does not necessarily mean that the curvature tensor is zero. Exterior Schwarzschild has [itex]R = 0[/itex] with non-zero curvature tensor.

but the scalar curvature of zero means that the Einstein tensor reduces to the Ricci tensor in the field equation?
 
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BWV said:
but the scalar curvature of zero means that the Einstein tensor reduces to the Ricci tensor in the field equation?

Right (for zero cosmological constant), and vacuum means that the stress-energy tensor is zero, so the vacuum Einstein equation, of which exterior Schwarzschild is one solution, is

[tex]R_{\mu \nu} = 0.[/tex]
 
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George Jones said:
Right (for zero cosmological constant), and vacuum means that the stress-energy tensor is zero, so the vacuum Einstein equation, of which exterior Schwarzschild is one solution, is

[tex]R_{\mu \nu} = 0.[/tex]

I'm confused - isn't the stress-energy tensor what reduces to the mass in the Newtonian approximation? If there is no mass (and no curvature), how can the Schwarzschild equation have been useful in calculating Mercury's perihelion, which was its first important use, right?

Also, for the Ricci Tensor to be zero means that Schwarzschild can be reduced to a cartesian coordinate system, so I guess that when rs is zero this reduces to the Minkowski metric?

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Consider the Sun-Mercury system, and ignore Mercury's contribution to spacetime curvature as negligible compared that of the Sun. Outside the body of the Sun, there is (for the purposes of this exercise) a vacuum, and the stress-energy and Ricci tensors are zero outside the Sun, even though the Riemann curvature is non-zero outside the Sun. Since spacetime curvature is non-zero outside the Sun, there is no extended inertial coordinate system outside the Sun. The amount of spacetime curvature outside the Sun depends on the mass of the Sun, and, consequently, the amount of change perihelion position depends on the mass of the Sun.

Inside the body of the Sun, the stress-energy and Ricci tensors are non-zero.
 

FAQ: Exploring CTensor & Schwarzschild Metric in Maxima

1. What is CTensor and how is it used in Maxima?

CTensor is a computer algebra system that is designed to perform tensor computations. It is used in Maxima, which is a computer algebra system that is used for symbolic and numerical calculations. CTensor is used in Maxima to perform calculations related to tensors, such as those found in the Schwarzschild metric.

2. What is the Schwarzschild metric and why is it important?

The Schwarzschild metric is a mathematical representation of the spacetime around a non-rotating, spherically symmetric mass. It is important because it is one of the solutions to Einstein's field equations in general relativity, and it describes the gravitational field around a massive object, such as a planet or a star.

3. How can I use Maxima to explore the Schwarzschild metric?

To explore the Schwarzschild metric in Maxima, you can use the CTensor package, which allows you to perform calculations related to tensors. You can input the necessary equations and parameters into Maxima and use the functions in CTensor to perform calculations and manipulate the equations.

4. Can Maxima help me understand the physical implications of the Schwarzschild metric?

Yes, Maxima can help you understand the physical implications of the Schwarzschild metric by allowing you to input different values for the parameters and observe how they affect the metric. You can also use Maxima to plot the metric and visualize the curvature of spacetime around a massive object.

5. Are there any limitations to using Maxima for exploring the Schwarzschild metric?

As with any computer algebra system, there are limitations to what Maxima can do. Maxima is a powerful tool but it is not a substitute for understanding the underlying concepts and equations. It is important to have a strong understanding of general relativity and the Schwarzschild metric before using Maxima to explore it.

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