Exploring Geometry & E&M: Connections to Gravity

In summary, the conversation is about references to attempts at explaining electricity and magnetism through a geometrical technique similar to how general relativity explains gravity. The discussion mentions Weyl's unified theory and Einstein's initial puzzlement with it, as well as the belief that electromagnetism should have grander origins. A biography of Einstein and a review article are suggested as potential sources of information on this topic.
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Does anyone know of references to attempts at explaining electricity and magnetism via a geometrical technique similar to how general relativity explains gravity?

thanks.
 
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Moving this to Special & General Relativity; where it will likely get more attention.
 
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metrictensor said:
Does anyone know of references to attempts at explaining electricity and magnetism via a geometrical technique similar to how general relativity explains gravity?

thanks.
I'm not sure about a good reference, but just look for info on the http://www-th.phys.rug.nl/~schaar/htmlreport/node12.html , which was thought up shortly after Einstein published the theory of general relativity and which has since been incorporated into string theory.
 
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metrictensor said:
Does anyone know of references to attempts at explaining electricity and magnetism via a geometrical technique similar to how general relativity explains gravity?

thanks.
Einstein was under the impression that GR no more uses geometry to describe gravity than EM uses geometry for EM.

Pete
 
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metrictensor said:
Does anyone know of references to attempts at explaining electricity and magnetism via a geometrical technique similar to how general relativity explains gravity?

thanks.

Check out Pais' biography of Einstein "Subtle is the Lord". I also noticed, but can't put my hands on a good review article posted at arXiv.

I don't remember if Pais confirms this, but when Einstein first saw Weyl's unified theory (see Weyl's "Space Time Matter"), he was quite puzzled by it as he thought the problem had been solved with Einstein Maxwell theory (see Einstein's 1916 paper in "Principle of Relativity"). In Einstein-Maxwell theory you insert a stress-energy tensor for the currents and a Maxwell stress-energy tensor for the electromagnetic field and solve Einstein and Maxwell equations simultaneously for the metric and the electromagnetic field. From the letters between Hilbert And Einstein that Pais quotes, it is clear that they thought they would be able to describe the hydrogen atom with this theory. Possibly that failure or the notion that electromagnetism should have grander origins then drove the later quest for a "geometrization" of the electromagnetic field with an asymmetric metric.
 

FAQ: Exploring Geometry & E&M: Connections to Gravity

What is the relationship between geometry, electromagnetism, and gravity?

The relationship between geometry, electromagnetism, and gravity is that they are all fundamental theories in physics that help explain the behavior of matter and energy in the universe. Geometry is the study of shapes and their properties, while electromagnetism is the study of the electromagnetic force that governs the behavior of charged particles. Gravity, on the other hand, is the force that attracts objects with mass to each other. These theories are interconnected and play a crucial role in our understanding of the universe.

How does geometry play a role in understanding gravity?

Geometry plays a crucial role in understanding gravity as it helps us visualize and describe the curvature of space and time caused by massive objects. This curvature is what causes objects to be attracted to each other, and the more massive an object is, the greater its curvature. Einstein's theory of general relativity describes this relationship between geometry and gravity, showing that gravity is not a force between masses, but rather a curvature of space-time caused by the presence of mass.

What is the connection between electromagnetism and gravity?

The connection between electromagnetism and gravity is still an ongoing area of research. However, some theories suggest that the electromagnetic force and the gravitational force may be unified under a single framework, known as a grand unified theory. This theory aims to explain how all the fundamental forces of nature, including gravity, can be described by a single set of equations.

How do these theories impact our understanding of the universe?

These theories have a significant impact on our understanding of the universe as they help us explain and predict the behavior of matter and energy on a cosmic scale. For example, general relativity has been crucial in understanding the motions of planets and stars, the bending of light around massive objects, and the expansion of the universe. Electromagnetism also plays a crucial role in our understanding of the behavior of particles and their interactions with each other.

What are some practical applications of these theories?

These theories have numerous practical applications, including GPS technology, which relies on precise calculations of both general relativity and electromagnetism to accurately determine the location of objects on Earth. Other practical applications include the development of new technologies, such as particle accelerators, that help us study the behavior of matter on a fundamental level. Additionally, these theories have also led to the discovery of new phenomena, such as gravitational waves, which have opened up new avenues for research and exploration in the field of physics.

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