Graduate What Happens to Information When a Star Becomes a Black Hole?

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The discussion centers on the fate of information when a star collapses into a black hole, referencing the Holographic Principle which suggests that information on a cosmological horizon reflects the internal state. It raises questions about whether the information from the star is lost or duplicated upon the formation of the black hole's event horizon. The idea of infinite projections of information is proposed, suggesting that information may be imprinted on both horizons without change. The conversation includes references to articles from Phys.org and National Geographic for further exploration of these concepts. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the complex relationship between information, black holes, and the nature of reality.
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So we know from the Holographic Principle that the information on the cosmological horizon represents what is inside.

Suppose a large star is about to turn into a black hole. Well, that star is represented by information on some far away horizon. When that star turns into a black hole, it has an event horizon itself on which the information on it describes what happens inside of it. So what happens to the information of the star that was originally on the outer horizon? Is it lost? Or is it duplicated? Here it would just be a projection from 2d to 2d to 3d.

Could it be imagined that somehow we have infinite projections of 2d->2d->2d...?
 
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That's an interesting question. My suspicion is that the information is imprinted on both as there's no apparent means or reason to have it change. However, I have to reference to post that says so.

I did find this article on Phys.org

https://phys.org/news/2012-05-black-hole-universe-physicist-solution.html

and this one from Nat Geo:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100409-black-holes-alternate-universe-multiverse-einstein-wormholes/
 
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That's an interesting question. My suspicion is that the information is imprinted on both as there's no apparent means or reason to have it change. However, I have to reference to post that says so.

I did find this article on Phys.org

https://phys.org/news/2012-05-black-hole-universe-physicist-solution.html

and this one from Nat Geo:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2010/04/100409-black-holes-alternate-universe-multiverse-einstein-wormholes/

That makes a lot of sense. There is spherical harmony to it too.
 
"Supernovae evidence for foundational change to cosmological models" https://arxiv.org/pdf/2412.15143 The paper claims: We compare the standard homogeneous cosmological model, i.e., spatially flat ΛCDM, and the timescape cosmology which invokes backreaction of inhomogeneities. Timescape, while statistically homogeneous and isotropic, departs from average Friedmann-Lemaître-Robertson-Walker evolution, and replaces dark energy by kinetic gravitational energy and its gradients, in explaining...

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