Exploring Space-Time and Time Cones

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of time cones and space-time, and the difficulty in understanding these ideas. The conversation mentions a diagram in an astronomy book that depicts the big bang as the perimeter of a circle, with the present at the center and space-time expanding outward. The idea of light cones is also brought up and compared to the diagram. The conversation concludes by discussing different ways to visualize the concept of space-time and the importance of not taking any representations too seriously.
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I've been reading all about time cones, and space-time, and those general ideas. i forget if i already posted about it a whil ago, but if i did, obivously i didn't quite get the right answer because i still don't understand it... but i was looking at a picture too in an astronomy book a while ago. and it was a drawing of a circle with the big bang as the perimiter. the very center was the present. and space-time went outward from t here towards the big bang. at the time i thought it was a great representation, but the more i thought about it the more confused i started to get. then i was thinking about light cones. and that picture sort of makes sense again... i think. in those light cones, the present is only one point in space time, just like the center in that picture. and i guess we're always traveling towards the center of the picture, which is the future, but we're actually always exactly at the center. and we can only observe the space that expands outward from us, which is the past. i don't know if I'm missing anything else...

umm, i had a question when i started... but its kind of disappeared when i was trying to figure out how they were related. either way, does that sound about right? or make sense? and is that a good way to think about it at all?
 
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As long as you are completely aware that any drawing or even 3-d representation is only an incomplete rendering to help visualize something that can not be visualized, the one with the origin at the edge is as good as the one with the origin at the center.

It maybe renders better the fact that any direction we look at around us, is the origin.

But it's less effective in for example, showing that our visible universe is only a part from the total, in representing the paths of light etc.

I personally feel more comfortable with the one in which the origin is the center. Then, our visible universe can be represented by the surface of a sort of melon (or american football ball) from the center to our current location.
Once again, all ok as long as you don't take any of them too seriously.
 
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A time cone is a 4 dimensional geometric. Very hard to visualize by even the most gifted physicists [Hawking said he has difficulty picturing the universe in 3 dimensions!]. Try to visualize a pair of two dimensional universes. The first is a flat piece of paper plotting x,y coordinates. The second is a flat piece of paper plotting z,t coordinates. After that, align and rotate both flat pieces of paper around any axis, x,y,z or t. This gives you a four dimensional reference frame. Time [how long between revolutions] is the the only scalar quantity in this reference frame. This is the most awesome demonstration of space time dimensions I ever witnessed. It is also, for me, a beautiful way to demonstrate how time and space are coupled.
 
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FAQ: Exploring Space-Time and Time Cones

What is space-time?

Space-time is the four-dimensional framework in which all physical events take place. It combines the three dimensions of space (length, width, and height) with the dimension of time.

What is the concept of a time cone?

A time cone is a visual representation of the path that an object or event has taken through space-time. It is shaped like a cone, with the tip representing the present moment and the base representing the past and future.

How does exploring space-time help us understand the universe?

By exploring space-time, we can better understand how objects and events interact with each other and how the laws of physics govern the behavior of the universe. It also allows us to study the evolution of the universe and make predictions about its future.

What are some methods for exploring space-time?

Some methods for exploring space-time include using mathematical models, conducting experiments, and observing astronomical phenomena. Technologies such as telescopes and satellites also play a crucial role in studying space-time.

Can we travel through space-time?

While we can travel through space, currently, there is no known way to travel through time. The laws of physics, specifically the theory of relativity, suggest that traveling through time is only possible at the speed of light, which is currently beyond our technological capabilities.

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