Exploring the Convergence of Infinite Sums of Cosines

In summary, the conversation discusses how to approach a math problem involving finding the limit of a Riemann sum. The suggested method is to write the sum as a Riemann sum and then use the limit to find the integral. The conversation also mentions using Taylor series to find the limit, with one person successfully finding the solution using this method. The conversation also briefly touches on the usefulness of Taylor series and its level of difficulty, suggesting it is typically college/university material.
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flyerpower
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I have no idea how to start. Any hints?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Hi flyerpower! :smile:

The trick is to write this sum in a Riemann sum. So, write the sum as something of the form

[tex]\sum_{k=1}^n{f(x_k)\Delta x}[/tex]

The limit of such a sum is an integral. So if you can write your sum as a Riemann sum, then you can find integrals to calculate the limit.
 
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Hmm, nice problem! :smile:

@MM: I tried it your way, but couldn't find such a function. Do you have a suggestion how to get there?

What I did, was to write the cosine function as a Taylor expansion with only 1 term and an upper estimate for the remainder term. From there I could find the limit...
 
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I've already tried finding a function suitable for Riemann but, unfortunately, i couldn't come up with a result. I'll keep trying if you say it can be solved using riemann sums:).

@serena what value did you come up with by using taylor series?
 
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flyerpower said:
I've already tried finding a function suitable for Riemann but, unfortunately, i couldn't come up with a result. I'll keep trying if you say it can be solved using riemann sums:).

@serena what value did you come up with by using taylor series?

I'd try ILSerena's method, it is much easier. :smile:
It should work with riemann sums, but I think it will get a bit complicated...
 
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flyerpower said:
@serena what value did you come up with by using taylor series?

1/3.

(You're not doing some online homework test for extra credit, for which you only need the answer I hope?)
 
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(You're not doing some online homework test for extra credit, for which you only need the answer I hope?)

No :), actually I'm preparing for an important math exam and I'm just practicing. I wanted to know your result and try with taylor series.
 
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So, i kinda guessed it using my intuition.

So that sum expands like this : cos PI/(2n+1) + cos PI/(2n+2) + ... cos PI/(2n+n)

then if we apply the limit n -> infinity :

PI/(2n+1) -> 0, so does PI/(2n+2) ... PI/(2n+n), so every term converges to cos(0) = 1

We will have 1+1+1+1+1...+1 = n

And then if we plug it into the initial limit we have n/(3n+1) which converges to 1/3.
Is my intuition correct ?:)Also if you may write here the Taylor series method i would really appreciate. I don't know how to write that cosine function with only one term if Taylor series are infinite polynomial series :).
 
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Yes, your intuition is correct! :smile:

The main thing the Taylor series remainder term provides, is to show that the remainder vanishes.

For reference, the Taylor series is explained on wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_series

In particular on this page you can find that the expansion for the cosine is:
[tex]\cos x = 1 - \frac {x^2} {2!} + \frac {x^4} {4!} - ...[/tex]

Sadly the wiki article does not explain about the remainder term, but it is explained in this wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor's_theorem

Long story short, we have:
[tex]1 - \frac {x^2} {2!} \le \cos x \le 1[/tex]

If you fill that in, you should find your limit (although it's still not trivial :wink:).
 
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Thank you for the explanation, i got it.
Taylor series seem to be very useful in many situations, i'll take a deeper look on them even though i didn't study that at school.
 
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Well, you wouldn't.
That is, not in high school (assuming that is what you mean).
It's college/university material, which is not taught in high school (afaik).
This problem has university in mathematics or physics written over it.
How did you get by it?
 
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I just finished high school and now I'm preparing for college admission.
As for this problem, i found it in the math book that i use for practice.
 

FAQ: Exploring the Convergence of Infinite Sums of Cosines

What is an infinite limit of cos sum?

An infinite limit of cos sum refers to the behavior of the trigonometric function cosine when the input values approach infinity. In other words, it describes what happens to the output values of cosine as the input values get larger and larger.

How is an infinite limit of cos sum calculated?

The infinite limit of cos sum can be calculated using the limit definition in calculus. This involves taking the limit of the cosine function as the input values approach infinity. This limit can also be evaluated using trigonometric identities and properties.

What is the value of an infinite limit of cos sum?

The value of an infinite limit of cos sum depends on the specific input values and the form of the cosine function. In some cases, the limit may approach a specific value, while in others it may oscillate between different values or may not exist at all.

What are some applications of infinite limits of cos sum?

Infinite limits of cos sum have applications in various fields such as physics, engineering, and mathematics. They are commonly used in the analysis of oscillatory systems, harmonic motion, and periodic functions. They also play a role in the study of infinite series and Fourier series.

How does the infinite limit of cos sum relate to other trigonometric functions?

The infinite limit of cos sum is closely related to the infinite limit of other trigonometric functions such as sine and tangent. In fact, the limit of cosine as the input values approach infinity can be expressed in terms of the limit of sine and tangent. This relationship can be useful in simplifying complex trigonometric expressions and solving problems in calculus.

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