Exploring the Effects of Space Motion on Light Measurements

In summary, the conversation discusses two assumptions: 1) the position of an object moving through space at different times, and 2) the behavior of light. The participants then discuss an experiment involving a moving box, a strobe light, a mirror, and an observer with a clock. The observer measures the time interval between two flashes of light in different configurations and realizes that the distance between the light source and the observer affects the time delay. This is due to basic geometry and the constant speed of light. The conversation ends with a question about the effect of distance on the time delay and the clarification that uniform motion and rest are the same thing in this scenario.
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In this example I make 2 assumptions

1. if an object is moving through space at time T0 it will be at point x,y,z,T0 and at a different time T1 it will be at a different position x,y,z,T1.

The other assumption I make is that light is non ballistic.

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Referring to fig 1

There is a box that may be moving through space. In the box is a strobe light at the red square, a mirror at the blue square and an observer with a clock at the green square. All objects are at rest wrt the box.

The strobe flashes briefly once. Light will travel from the strobe to the observer.

Light will also travel to the mirror reflect off the mirror to the observer. So the observer will see two flashes of light separated by a time period.

Using the clock the observer measures the period between the two flashes of light.

In fig 1 the light source is to the left of the direction of travel, the mirror on the right.

With this configuration the observer fires the strobe and measures the time period he sees between the two flashes of light. Let's say he gets a reading of X

The observer now changes the position of the mirror and the light. He places the mirror where the light source was and the lgiht source where the mirror was. The observer then places himslf at the psoition he was in in fig 1. The only thing that changes is the position of the mirror and the light all distances between object are the same as in fig 1.
With this configuration the observer fires the strobe and measures the time period he sees between the two flashes of light. I calculate that the observer will not get a reading of X.

Why is this or am I wrong?
 

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This has nothing to do with relativity, the time interval would be different even if we look at things in the rest frame of the boxcar. For example, suppose the distance from the source to the observer is 13 light-seconds, the distance from the source to the mirror is 14 light-seconds, and the distance from the mirror to the observer is 15 light-seconds. In this case it will take 13 seconds for the light to travel from the source to the observer and 14+15=29 seconds for the light to travel from the source to the mirror to the observer, a difference of 16 seconds. If you now switch the positions of the source and the mirror, that means it takes 15 seconds for the light to travel from the source to the observer, and 14+13=27 seconds for the light to travel from the source to the mirror to the observer, a difference of only 12 seconds. It's just a consequence of basic geometry, if you have a triangle with three unequal sides A, B, and C, there's no reason to expect that (B + C) - A should equal (B + A) - C.

Or did you want to specify that the distance from the mirror to the observer is the same as the distance from the source to the observer?
 
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...and if you do assume that the mirror and source are the same distance from the observer, then since the speed of light is constant, the time delay will be the same either way. There is no experiment that you can perform in a box that will be affected in any way by its state of uniform motion. Uniform motion and rest are the same thing.
 

Related to Exploring the Effects of Space Motion on Light Measurements

1. What is the purpose of exploring the effects of space motion on light measurements?

The purpose of this study is to understand how the motion of an object in space can affect the measurements of light. This is important for accurately interpreting data and making precise calculations in space-based observations and experiments.

2. How is space motion different from motion on Earth?

In space, objects are often moving at much higher speeds and in different directions than on Earth. Additionally, there is no atmosphere in space to cause resistance or friction, so motion can be more constant and uniform.

3. How does space motion affect light measurements?

The motion of an object in space can cause a phenomenon known as the Doppler effect, which shifts the wavelength of light emitted or absorbed by the object. This can affect measurements of the object's velocity, distance, and other properties.

4. How do scientists account for space motion in their measurements?

Scientists use various techniques and instruments to account for the effects of space motion on light measurements. These include Doppler shift correction algorithms, precision tracking systems, and specialized telescopes and detectors.

5. What are some potential applications of understanding the effects of space motion on light measurements?

Understanding space motion can help improve the accuracy of measurements in space-based experiments, such as determining the mass and composition of distant objects or tracking the motion of stars and galaxies. It can also aid in the development of new technologies for space exploration and communication.

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