Exploring the End of the Universe: Measuring the Unmeasurable

In summary, the universe is believed to be spatially infinite and does not have a specific end or boundary. Trying to apply common sense intuition to its size and shape is not helpful. To learn more about what is currently known, you can read resources such as the FAQ and sticky thread in the cosmology section and search for more information in the forum.
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where is end of universe and how can measure it?
 
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anuraj.b said:
where is end of universe and how can measure it?

There isn't one.
 
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Hi anuraj.b,

The universe is very much unlike a stick, and more like a sphere. It doesn't have ends.

But it's not really like a sphere either, as it doesn't have edges.

The bottom line being, there's little point in trying to apply common sense intuitions to cosmological scales.

To find out what we do know about the shape and size of the universe, start by reading the faq in the cosmology section(https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=506986) and the sticky thread on the balloon analogy (https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=261161).
Mordred wrote a very informative post about the geometry of the universe, to be seen here: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=694499

A forum search in the cosmo section might help as well.

That should be enough reading to help you ask more precise questions in the future.
 
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Bandersnatch said:
But it's not really like a sphere either, as it doesn't have edges.

Neither does a sphere. Perhaps what you meant to say is that, at least on our best current understanding, the universe is spatially infinite, whereas a sphere is not.
 
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PeterDonis said:
Neither does a sphere. Perhaps what you meant to say is that, at least on our best current understanding, the universe is spatially infinite, whereas a sphere is not.
Sorry, my English is failing me. Should I have said "boundaries"? I think it should be boundaries.
 
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A sphere has no boundary either if by boundary you mean manifold boundary (which is the one we care about in GR). I think you are confusing balls with spheres.
 
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Bandersnatch said:
Sorry, my English is failing me. Should I have said "boundaries"? I think it should be boundaries.

As WannabeNewton said, spheres don't have boundaries either. The key difference between a sphere and what I called a "spatially infinite" space, like we currently think the universe is, is that a sphere is a compact manifold, whereas a spatially infinite space is not.

(Actually, if Wikipedia is correct--which is not something that should be taken for granted--a sphere is a "closed manifold", i.e., a compact manifold without boundary. I've seen the term "compact" used to mean this as well, so I'm not sure what the most-used terminology is. The key is that both a sphere and a spatially infinite space are manifolds without boundary, so the presence or absence of a boundary isn't what differentiates them--it's that only the sphere is compact.)
 

FAQ: Exploring the End of the Universe: Measuring the Unmeasurable

What is the end of the universe?

The end of the universe refers to the ultimate fate of the universe, which is still a topic of ongoing scientific research and debate. Some theories suggest that the universe will continue to expand forever, while others propose that it will eventually collapse in a "big crunch." Ultimately, the end of the universe is unknown and may be impossible to measure with our current technology.

How do scientists measure the end of the universe?

Scientists use a variety of methods to measure the universe, including observations of cosmic microwave background radiation, measurements of the expansion rate of the universe, and studies of the distribution of matter and energy. These methods help us understand the past, present, and potential future of the universe.

Can we accurately predict the end of the universe?

While scientists have made many advances in understanding the universe, predicting the end is still beyond our current capabilities. The ultimate fate of the universe is a complex and multifaceted question that requires further research and technological advancements.

How do scientists explore the end of the universe?

Scientists explore the end of the universe through a combination of theoretical models and observational data. This involves using advanced telescopes, satellites, and other instruments to gather data and analyze it using mathematical and computational models.

What are the implications of exploring the end of the universe?

Studying the end of the universe can help us better understand the origins and evolution of the universe, as well as potential future outcomes. It also has practical applications, such as improving our understanding of dark matter and dark energy, and potentially helping us develop technologies for space exploration and colonization.

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