Exploring the Equivalence of Einstein and Newton's Formulation of Gravity

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In summary, Einstein's formulation of gravity is analogous to the differential form of Newton's version, with the metric tensor and energy-momentum tensor playing the same roles as gravitational potential and density respectively. The 4 in Newton's version becomes an 8 in Einstein's equation because it is in a 4-dimensional space and measures the field at the surface of a 4-sphere, which has a surface area of 8πr^3. This is mathematically derived from requiring R00 = 4πGρ, and has a physical significance that is still being studied.
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I have read that Einstein's formulation of gravity [tex]G_{ab}=\frac{8 \pi G}{c^4}T_{ab}[/tex] is analogous to the differential form of Newton's version [tex]\nabla ^2 \phi = 4 \pi G \rho[/tex] with the metric tensor and energy-momentum tensor in the modern form playing the same roles as gravitational potential and density in the classical one, respectively.

My question: why did the 4 become an 8?
 
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In simple, though rough terms, Newton's version is in a 3 dimensional space and measures the field at the surface of a sphere and that area is given by 4\pi r^2.

Einstein's equation is in a 4 dimensional space and measures the field at the surface of a 4-sphere and that area is given by 8\pi r^3.
 
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I may be miscalculating but I'm getting the 'surface volume' of a 3-sphere to be [tex]2 \pi ^2 R^3 [/tex] (instead of [tex]8 \pi R^3[/tex]).
 
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Hi snoopies622! :smile:

(have a pi: π and a rho: ρ :wink:)
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I may be miscalculating but I'm getting the 'surface volume' of a 3-sphere to be [tex]2 \pi ^2 R^3 [/tex] (instead of [tex]8 \pi R^3[/tex]).

Yes, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4-sphere#Volume_of_the_n-ball, the 4-ball has volume π2r4/2, and surface area 2π2r3

(the surface area is always n/r times the volume of the n-ball)
My question: why did the 4 become an 8?

The mathematical reason:

we require R00 = 4πGρ.

But R00 = constant(T00 - 1/2 T g00),

and T00 - 1/2 T g00 = ρc4 - 1/2 ρc4,

so the constant must be 8πG :smile:

(i got this from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein_Field_Equations_(EFE)#The_correspondence_principle :redface:)

… but I'd still like someone to explain the physical significance of this! :rolleyes:
 
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Thanks, tiny-tim. I'll spend some time looking through that Wikipedia derivation.
 

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