Exploring the Formation of Vortices by Rossby Waves in Atmosphere and Ocean

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In summary, the conversation discusses the role of Rossby waves in the formation of vortices, specifically in the atmosphere and in the ocean. The possibility of Rossby waves causing vortices in the ocean is mentioned, along with the potential size and strength of these vortices. The idea that oceanic circulations may be less turbulent due to the higher viscosity of water is also brought up. The conversation ends with a mention of a book on oceanography and observations of 1000-mile-wide stationary systems and their association with Rossby waves.
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Rossby waves in the atmosphere spawn vortices which are low pressure areas.

Is it possible that the Rossby waves in the ocean spawn vortices? If so, how big might they be?

Something tells me that I'm not going to get an answer to this question.
 
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Understanding very little of that topic I nevertheless dare to express some thoughts on it:
In atmosphere the creation of cyclones is due to smaller scale turbulences being embedded in the Rossby waves. I suppose that the oceanic circulations are much less turbulent on comparable length scales as the Reynolds numbers are much lower due to the higher viscosity of water as compared to air.
 
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Yes, see

Oceanography by Summerhayes and Thorpe, p67
 
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I'm watching for systems 1000 miles in diameter. Often they become stationary and all hell breaks loose. When they become stationary, there is often a Rossby Wave associated with the system. Which comes first: the Rossby Wave, the Super System, the temp/inverted Troposphere, an abnormal stationary updraft?
 
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I can confirm that Rossby waves can indeed spawn vortices in both the atmosphere and the ocean. These vortices are typically low pressure areas, as mentioned in the content. However, the size of these vortices can vary greatly and is dependent on various factors such as the strength of the Rossby waves, the temperature and salinity of the water, and the surrounding environmental conditions. In general, these oceanic vortices can range from a few kilometers to hundreds of kilometers in diameter. Further research and observations are needed to better understand the formation and behavior of these vortices in the ocean.
 

FAQ: Exploring the Formation of Vortices by Rossby Waves in Atmosphere and Ocean

What are Rossby waves and how do they form vortices in the atmosphere and ocean?

Rossby waves are large-scale, meandering waves that occur in the atmosphere and ocean due to the Coriolis effect. They are caused by the rotation of the Earth and the differences in temperature and pressure within the atmosphere and ocean. When these waves encounter areas of sharp changes in the Earth's surface, such as coastlines or mountain ranges, they can create rotating vortices.

What is the significance of studying the formation of vortices by Rossby waves?

Understanding the formation of vortices by Rossby waves is important for predicting and studying weather patterns and ocean currents. These vortices can have significant impacts on local and global weather patterns, as well as ocean circulation and marine life. By studying their formation, we can better understand and potentially predict these effects.

What techniques are used to explore the formation of vortices by Rossby waves?

Scientists use a combination of observational data, numerical simulations, and theoretical models to explore the formation of vortices by Rossby waves. This involves analyzing data from satellites, buoys, and ships, as well as running computer simulations and developing mathematical models to understand the underlying processes.

How do Rossby waves and vortices affect climate change?

Rossby waves and vortices play a significant role in the Earth's climate system. They can transport heat and moisture across the globe, influencing temperature and precipitation patterns. As the Earth's climate changes, the strength and frequency of these waves and vortices may also change, potentially impacting weather patterns and ocean circulation.

What are some potential applications of studying the formation of vortices by Rossby waves?

Studying the formation of vortices by Rossby waves has practical applications in various fields, including weather forecasting, oceanography, and marine biology. By understanding how vortices form and their impacts on the environment, we can improve our ability to predict and mitigate the effects of severe weather events, as well as manage fisheries and other marine resources.

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