Exploring the Limits of Visibility: The Relationship between Air and Sight

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In summary, the conversation discusses whether or not we can see air and how our eyes detect objects. It is explained that we are able to see air because of refractive effects caused by temperature gradients, and that we can also see air by looking at a daytime blue sky. The conversation also touches on how the atmosphere's transparency affects our ability to see and how this relates to evolution and the development of our eyes. Additionally, the concept of mirages and shimmering heat sources are discussed as examples of how we perceive air visually.
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Would we be able to see anything else? Or would the air just block out the view of anything else?
 
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Only if it were opaque. Actually, you are seeing air when objects appear to waver when viewed over a hot surface.
 
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Actually, we are evolved not to see air. Mirages and shimmering over heat sources are not "seeing" air - they are effects of changes in the refractive properties of air.
 
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What does it mean to be able to see an object? It means that we can detect the light that is reflected by that object. In the case of very sparse gasses like air, the amount of light reflected (scattered) by the object is very small but still detectable. For example, if you look up at the sky and see that it is blue, you are seeing the air; the blue light is scattered by the air to a greater extent than the shorter wavelengths, so the sky appears more blue than other objects around it.

Now if you were to concentrate the air, it would be much easier to see the light reflected by the air. This is actually possible; air is mostly nitrogen and if you liquify nitrogen, you can see the nitrogen as clearly as one would see any other liquid like water.
 
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Actually, we are evolved not to see air. Mirages and shimmering over heat sources are not "seeing" air - they are effects of changes in the refractive properties of air.

Perhaps you argue that we similarly can't see water or glass?
 
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obafgkmrns said:
Perhaps you argue that we similarly can't see water or glass?
We can see these materials because they differ in refractive index from air, and exhibit some reflectivity at their surfaces. The way we "see" air is primarily from refractive effects due to temperature gradients. Go out at night and look at stars that twinkle. Are you "seeing" air, or are you seeing the effects of temperature gradients in air on the light-path from the star to your eye?
 
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turbo said:
We can see these materials because they differ in refractive index from air, and exhibit some reflectivity at their surfaces. The way we "see" air is primarily from refractive effects due to temperature gradients. Go out at night and look at stars that twinkle. Are you "seeing" air, or are you seeing the effects of temperature gradients in air on the light-path from the star to your eye?

I'm seeing regions of differing refractive index. Those regions are composed chiefly of, well, air.
 
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You can see air quite easily by looking at a daytime blue sky. Although it is apparently quite transparent the scattered blue light overwhelms the dimmer star light, at least to our eyes. So you can see air, but you need many miles of it and good lighting.
 
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Maybe you'd have to consider it from another angle. The sun produces a certain frequency band of the electromagnetic spectrum, for which the mixture of gasses, which is called atmosphere, happens to be reasonable transparent. Evolution took advantage of that by develloping sensors aka eyes, which are the most sensitive in the center of that frequency band.

Should the atmosphere have been more opaque for the solar spectrum then we would have seen eternal fog.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transparency_and_translucency

We can 'see' the air indeed sometimes when simmering hot and cold air mix with have differenrent refraction indexes, causing 'simmering' distortions of the background and mirages.
 

FAQ: Exploring the Limits of Visibility: The Relationship between Air and Sight

What is the significance of exploring the limits of visibility?

The relationship between air and sight is crucial in understanding how we perceive the world around us. By studying the limits of visibility, we can gain insight into the properties of air and how it affects our ability to see objects and images. This can have implications in various fields, such as aviation, astronomy, and environmental science.

How does air affect our visibility?

Air is made up of various gases and particles that can scatter and absorb light. This scattering and absorption can impact the clarity and contrast of objects that we see. Additionally, changes in air density, humidity, and pollution levels can also affect our visibility.

What tools and techniques are used to study the relationship between air and sight?

Scientists use a variety of instruments, such as lasers, telescopes, and cameras, to measure and analyze the properties of air and its impact on visibility. They also use mathematical models and simulations to understand how different factors, like air density and pollution, affect visibility.

How does the relationship between air and sight differ in different environments?

The relationship between air and sight can vary depending on the specific conditions of different environments. For example, the air in a city with high levels of pollution and humidity may have a different impact on visibility compared to the air in a rural area with lower pollution levels. Additionally, factors like altitude, weather conditions, and time of day can also affect how air affects our sight.

What are the potential applications of understanding the limits of visibility?

Understanding the relationship between air and sight can have practical applications in various industries. For example, in aviation, understanding how air density and visibility can impact pilots' ability to see and navigate their aircraft is crucial for safety. In astronomy, studying the limits of visibility can help us better observe and understand objects in the universe. Additionally, this knowledge can also aid in developing strategies for improving air quality and reducing pollution, which can have significant impacts on public health and the environment.

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