Exploring the Relationship Between Conic Sections & Orbits

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between the angle of a conic section and the energy of an orbit under an inverse-square-law force, such as gravity. It is found that the eccentricity of the conic section is equal to the ratio of the sines of the angle of the intersecting plane and the angle of the cone. This is also related to the total energy of the orbit through an affine relation. The conversation also suggests exploring this relationship for other central forces.
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If you think about a double-napped cone, and the various non-degenerate sections you can get with it:

1. Circle
2. Ellipse
3. Parabola
4. Hyperbola,

you can see that there is a progression here: increasing angle $\alpha$ that the intersecting plane makes with the horizontal. To be clear about this, $\alpha$ is not the angle that the normal to the intersecting plane makes with the horizontal, but the angle that the plane itself makes with the horizontal.

It's also true that for an inverse-square-law force, such as gravity (in the classical limit), this same progression describes increasing amounts of energy in the resulting orbit. I've long thought there must be some mathematical relationship between the two. And there is, through the eccentricity. The eccentricity of a conic section is defined as
$$e= \frac{ \sin( \alpha)}{ \sin( \beta)},$$
where $\alpha$ is the angle I've already defined, and $\beta$ is the angle that the cone makes with the horizontal.

According to Marion and Thornton's Classical Dynamics of Particles and Systems, 4th Ed., p. 304, Eq. (8.40), you also have that the eccentricity of an orbit under the gravitational force is equal to
$$e= \sqrt{1+ \frac{2E \ell^{2}}{ \mu k}},$$
where $E$ is the total energy, $\ell$ is the angular momentum, $\mu$ is the reduced mass
$$\mu= \frac{m_{1}m_{2}}{m_{1}+m_{2}},$$
and $k=Gm_{1}m_{2}$ (the numerator of the gravitational force law, although it could also be $q_{1}q_{2}/(4 \pi \epsilon_{0})$, I suppose, for a Coulomb force.)

Hence, we have that
$$ \frac{ \sin^{2}( \alpha)}{ \sin^{2}( \beta)}=1+ \frac{2E \ell^{2}}{ \mu k}.$$
So the relationship between the angle of the conic section and the energy of the orbit is that the square of the sine of the conic section angle is affinely related to the total energy.
 
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Greg Bernhardt said:
Thanks @Ackbach, what math forum can we move this to?
I would say Classical Physics.
 
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I wonder if there is a similar relationship, more general, for any central force instead of specifically an inverse-square central force.
 

FAQ: Exploring the Relationship Between Conic Sections & Orbits

What are conic sections and how are they related to orbits?

Conic sections are geometric shapes formed by slicing a cone with a plane. They include circles, ellipses, parabolas, and hyperbolas. These shapes are related to orbits because they are the paths that objects take when moving around a central point, such as a planet orbiting a star.

Why is it important to explore the relationship between conic sections and orbits?

Studying the relationship between conic sections and orbits allows us to better understand the motion of objects in space. This knowledge is crucial for space exploration and understanding the behavior of celestial bodies.

How are conic sections and orbits calculated and predicted?

Conic sections and orbits can be calculated and predicted using mathematical equations, such as Kepler's laws of planetary motion. These laws describe the relationship between an object's orbit and the gravitational force of the central body it is orbiting.

What real-life examples demonstrate the relationship between conic sections and orbits?

One example is the orbit of planets around the sun, which follows an elliptical path. Another example is the orbit of a satellite around the Earth, which can be a circular or elliptical path. Even the path of a thrown ball can be described as a parabola, demonstrating the relationship between conic sections and orbits.

How has the understanding of conic sections and orbits evolved over time?

The understanding of conic sections and orbits has evolved greatly over time. Early Greek mathematicians, such as Euclid and Apollonius, studied conic sections and their geometric properties. Later, Johannes Kepler and Isaac Newton developed laws and equations to describe the motion of objects in orbit. Today, with advances in technology and space exploration, we have a much deeper understanding of the relationship between conic sections and orbits.

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