Express with at least one less pair of absolute value signs

In summary: Thanks for the help!In summary, we have learned that the expression ## ||a+b|-|a|-|b|| ## can be simplified to ## |a|+|b|-|a+b| ##. This is possible due to the triangle inequality, which states that ##|a+b|\leq|a|+|b|##. This allows us to remove the outermost pair of absolute value bars without affecting the final answer.
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wifi
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We have ## ||a+b|-|a|-|b|| ##. The only way I can think to eliminate one pair of absolute value signs is to consider the cases separately and determine which pair(s) can be removed without affecting the final answer. I'm trying to get better at doing these types of problems, so feel free to scrutinize this analysis.

Case 1: ## a>b>0 ##,

we have ## |a+b-a-b| = 0##.

Case 2a: ## a>0>b ## with ## b>-a \Rightarrow a+b>0##,

we have ## |a+b-a+b| = |2b| = |2| \cdot |b| = -2b ##.

Case 2b: ## a>0>b ## with ## b<-a \Rightarrow a+b<0##,

we have ## |-a-b-a+b| = |-2a| = |-2| \cdot |a| = 2a ##.

Case 3: ## 0>a>b ##,

we have ## |-a-b+a+b| = 0 ##.

After some inspection, one can see that the outermost pair of absolute value signs can be removed without affecting the final answer as long as a negative sign is added in its place. This is possible since the outermost absolute value bar serves only to change the sign in cases 2a and 2b.

So what we have is ## -(|a+b|-|a|-|b|) = |a|+|b|-|a+b| ##.

As a check, let's make sure this yields the same answers as the original expression.

Case 1: ## a>b>0 ##,

we have ## a+b-a-b = 0##.

Case 2a: ## a>0>b ## with ## b>-a \Rightarrow a+b>0##,

we have ## a-b-a-b= -2b ##.

Case 2b: ## a>0>b ## with ## b<-a \Rightarrow a+b<0##,

we have ## a-b+a+b = 2a ##.

Case 3: ## 0>a>b ##,

we have ## -a-b+a+b = 0 ##.

Same as above!

EDIT: Now that I'm thinking about it more, there are several cases I hadn't included:

If ## a=b ## we have ## ||a+a|-|a|-|a|| = ||2a|-|2a||= 0 ##.

If ## a=0, b>0 ## we have ## |b-b|=0 ##.

If ## a=0, b<0 ## we have ## |-b+b|=0 ##.

If ## a>0, b=0 ## we have ## |a-a|=0 ##.

If ## a<0, b=0 ## we have ## |-a+a|=0 ##.

Last but not least, for the trivial case ## a=0, b=0 ## we just have 0.

So we can see that in every case the outer bars may be removed without affecting the final answer. Thus, the answer is the same as described above. Sorry! Hopefully it's correct now.
 
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wifi said:
We have ## ||a+b|-|a|-|b|| ##. The only way I can think to eliminate one pair of absolute value signs is to consider the cases separately and determine which pair(s) can be removed without affecting the final answer. I'm trying to get better at doing these types of problems, so feel free to scrutinize this analysis.
Can't that be written as ##||a+b|-(|a|+|b|)|##? Are you familiar with the triangle inequality?

The triangle inequality applies to the real number line as a vector space by using the absolute value function as the norm. The triangle inequality states that ##|a+b|\leq|a|+|b|##. What does that imply here?
 
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Mandelbroth said:
Can't that be written as ##||a+b|-(|a|+|b|)|##? Are you familiar with the triangle inequality?

The triangle inequality applies to the real number line as a vector space by using the absolute value function as the norm. The triangle inequality states that ##|a+b|\leq|a|+|b|##. What does that imply here?

Yes, I am familiar with that inequality.

This implies that ##|a+b|-(|a|+|b|)\leq 0##. Thus, we can include the negative sign and remove the outermost absolute values bars as I did. Now I feel like what I did was a bit excessive. :redface:

I feel as though I discover only the least clever method for solving problems.
 
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wifi said:
Yes, I am familiar with that inequality.

This implies that ##|a+b|-(|a|+|b|)\leq 0##. Thus, we can include the negative sign and remove the outermost absolute values bars as I did. Now I feel like what I did was a bit excessive. :redface:
Proof by exhaustion is perfectly acceptable. Though, my suggestion for you would be to wait before you decide to separate it into every single case and solve. That will only work when there is a finite number of cases. I like this depiction:

 
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Mandelbroth said:
Proof by exhaustion is perfectly acceptable. Though, my suggestion for you would be to wait before you decide to separate it into every single case and solve. That will only work when there is a finite number of cases. I like this depiction:

Ha! I definitely learned my lesson.
 
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FAQ: Express with at least one less pair of absolute value signs

How do I express a mathematical expression with one less pair of absolute value signs?

To express a mathematical expression with one less pair of absolute value signs, you can use the property that the absolute value of a number is equal to the number itself if the number is non-negative. This means that if a number within the absolute value signs is already positive, you can remove the absolute value signs and leave the number as is. For example, |5| can be expressed as 5.

Can I remove one pair of absolute value signs if the number inside is negative?

Yes, you can still remove one pair of absolute value signs if the number inside is negative. However, you will need to change the sign of the number to positive. For example, |-5| can be expressed as 5.

What if the number inside the absolute value signs is a variable?

If the number inside the absolute value signs is a variable, you can still remove one pair of absolute value signs using the same property. However, you will need to consider both positive and negative values for the variable. For example, if the expression is |x|, it can be expressed as either x or -x.

Can I remove more than one pair of absolute value signs?

Yes, you can remove more than one pair of absolute value signs using the same property as mentioned before. However, you will need to consider all possible combinations of positive and negative values for the numbers within the absolute value signs. For example, ||-3|-5|| can be simplified to either |-3|-5| or -|-3|-5|, which result in 8 and -2 respectively.

Are there any exceptions to removing absolute value signs?

Yes, there are some exceptions to removing absolute value signs. One exception is when the number inside the absolute value signs is squared. In this case, you cannot remove the absolute value signs. Another exception is when the number inside the absolute value signs is part of a larger expression involving addition or subtraction. In this case, you will need to distribute the negative sign if it exists. For example, |2x+3| cannot be simplified further, while |-2x-3| can be simplified to -2x-3.

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