Expressing q in Terms of a_1,b_1,a_2,b_2

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In summary, the problem asks to find the value of q in terms of the slope of the tangent line and the coordinates of point A and B. Using trigonometric functions, the value of q can be expressed as q = p + Hsin(arctan((f(b)-f(a))/(b-a)))cos(arctan((f(b)-f(a))/(b-a))), where H = f(p)-y_1(p).
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Homework Statement


A tangent line at point A with coordinate (a,f(a)) of function f(x) intersects f(x) at point B coordinate (b,f(b)) . A vertical line is drawn from point p (a<p<b) and intersects f(x) at C. From C a perpendicular line to the tangent line is drawn which intersect the tangent line at point D with coordinate (q,f(q))

The tangent line can be described by [itex]y_1(x) =a_1 x+ b_1 [/itex]

|CD| can be described by [itex]y_2(x) =a_2 x+ b_2 [/itex]

Express q in terms of [itex]a_1,b_1,a_2,b_2[/itex]

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The Attempt at a Solution


I can find [itex]a_1,b_1,a_2,b_2[/itex] in terms of a, b, f(a) and f(b).

I can express q in terms of the slope of the tangent:

[tex]q = p + H \sin(\alpha) \cos(\alpha)[/tex]

with
[tex] \alpha = arctan\left( \frac{f(b)-f(a)}{b-a} \right) [/tex]

[tex] H = f(p) -y_1(p)[/tex]
and now what?
 
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dirk_mec1 said:

Homework Statement


A tangent line at point A with coordinate (a,f(a)) of function f(x) intersects f(x) at point B coordinate (b,f(b)) . A vertical line is drawn from point p (a<p<b) and intersects f(x) at C. From C a perpendicular line to the tangent line is drawn which intersect the tangent line at point D with coordinate (q,f(q))

The tangent line can be described by [itex]y_1(x) =a_1 x+ b_1 [/itex]

|CD| can be described by [itex]y_2(x) =a_2 x+ b_2 [/itex]

Express q in terms of [itex]a_1,b_1,a_2,b_2[/itex]

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/5cqg.jpg/


Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


I can find [itex]a_1,b_1,a_2,b_2[/itex] in terms of a, b, f(a) and f(b).

I can express q in terms of the slope of the tangent:

[tex]q = p + H \sin(\alpha) \cos(\alpha)[/tex]

with
[tex] \alpha = arctan\left( \frac{f(b)-f(a)}{b-a} \right) [/tex]

[tex] H = f(p) -y_1(p)[/tex]
and now what?
This is a fun Euclidean geometry problem. :biggrin:

##a_1q+b_1=a_2q+b_2##. Solve for ##q##.
 
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I wonder if there is a mistake in this question. Expressing q in terms of ##a_1##, ##a_2##, ##a_3## and ##a_4## means we don't need to know what those numbers are.
 
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Mandelbroth said:
This is a fun Euclidean geometry problem. :biggrin:

##a_1q+b_1=a_2q+b_2##. Solve for ##q##.

I can seriously hit myself against the wall. Thanks man.
 
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dirk_mec1 said:
I can seriously hit myself against the wall. Thanks man.
No problem. They threw a lot of unnecessary information out there. It took me a minute too. :-p
 

FAQ: Expressing q in Terms of a_1,b_1,a_2,b_2

How do I express q in terms of a1, b1, a2, and b2?

To express q in terms of a1, b1, a2, and b2, you can use the formula q = a1 + b1 + a2 + b2. This formula takes into account all four variables and combines them to determine the value of q.

2. Can I express q in terms of only two variables?

No, to express q in terms of only two variables, you would need to know the value of at least two of the other variables. For example, if you know the values of a1 and b1, you can express q in terms of just a1 and b1 by using the formula q = a1 + b1 + a2 + b2 and substituting the known values for a1 and b1.

3. What is the purpose of expressing q in terms of a1, b1, a2, and b2?

Expressing q in terms of a1, b1, a2, and b2 allows you to relate q to the other variables and understand how changes in those variables affect the value of q. It also helps to simplify and organize complex equations or systems of equations.

4. Can I use this formula to solve for any variable?

No, this formula is specifically for expressing q in terms of a1, b1, a2, and b2. If you want to solve for a different variable, you would need to use a different formula or rearrange this formula to solve for the desired variable.

5. Is there a specific order in which the variables should be written in the formula?

No, as long as all four variables are included, the order in which they are written does not matter. However, it is common to write them in alphabetical order for simplicity and consistency.

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