F(x) = f(Ax) iff |x| = |y| => f(x) = f(y), how?

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In summary: Then A is just the matrix that maps e_i to f_i.In summary, the conversation is about proving a statement involving a function f mapping from the real numbers to the complex numbers. The statement is that if f(x) is equal to f(Ax), where A is an orthonormal matrix and x and y are in the real numbers, then the norm of x is equal to the norm of y, which implies that f(x) is equal to f(y). The conversation also discusses using a hint involving orthonormal bases to show the existence of an orthonormal matrix A such that Ax=y if |x|=|y|.
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Homework Statement


I have to show that for [itex] f:\mathbb{R}^k\rightarrow \mathbb{C} [/itex] the following holds

[tex] f(x) = f(Ax)\qquad \Leftrightarrow \qquad \|x\| = \|y\|\quad \Rightarrow\quad f(x) = f(y)[/tex]

For every orthonormal n x n-matrices A and [itex] x,y\in\mathbb{R}^k[/itex]


The Attempt at a Solution



This problems seems kinda trivial but I can't seem to show this rigorously.

Assuming [itex] f(Ax) = f(x) [/itex], then since the linear map [itex] A:\mathbb{R}^k\rightarrow \mathbb{R}^k [/itex] is bijective, we can say that for every [itex] y\in\mathbb{R}^k [/itex] there is an [itex] x\in\mathbb{R}^k [/itex] such that [itex] Ax=y [/itex], since A is an orthonormal matrix we also have that [itex] \|y\|=\|Ax\| = \|x\| [/itex].
Now since [itex] f=f\circ A [/itex] we have [itex] f(x) = f(Ax) = f(y) [/itex]
So this proves the implication to the right.

To prove the implication to the left, can I then argue the same way saying that if [itex] \|x \| = \|y\| [/itex] then there exists and orthonormal matrix A such that [itex] Ax = y [/itex]? Is so then we already have that [itex] f(x) = f(y) [/itex] and since [itex] f(y) = f(Ax) [/itex], we have [itex] f(x) = f(Ax) [/itex], and this ends the proof??

There is a hint saying that if [itex] [e_1,\ldots,e_k] [/itex] and [itex] [f_1,\ldots,f_k] [/itex] are 2 bases for R^k there exists only 1 nonsingular matrix A, such that [itex] Ae_i = f_i [/itex], i = 1,..,k. And if both bases are orthonormal then A is orthonormal.
How do I use this hint? Or did I use it while talking about the existence of y = Ax?
 
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You use the hint to show that if |x|=|y| then there is an A such that Ax=y. Construct your orthonormal bases such that c*e_1=x and c*f_1=y for some constant c.
 

FAQ: F(x) = f(Ax) iff |x| = |y| => f(x) = f(y), how?

What is the significance of the function F(x) = f(Ax)?

The function F(x) = f(Ax) is a composition of two functions, f(x) and Ax. This means that the output of f(Ax) is used as the input for the function f(x). It represents a transformation of the input x by the matrix A, followed by the function f(x) being applied to the transformed input.

What does the "iff" in the equation mean?

"iff" stands for "if and only if". This means that the statement on the left side of the equation is true if and only if the statement on the right side is also true. In this case, it means that the equation is only true if both sides are equivalent to each other.

How does the equation relate to the concept of symmetry?

The equation states that if the absolute value of x is equal to the absolute value of y, then the function f(x) will also be equal to f(y). This means that the function is symmetric with respect to the x and y axes. If the input x is reflected across the x or y axis, the output will remain the same.

What is the significance of the absolute value in the equation?

The absolute value ensures that the equation holds true for both positive and negative values of x and y. This means that the function f(x) will maintain its value regardless of the sign of the input. It also ensures that the function is symmetric with respect to the origin.

How can this equation be applied in real-world situations?

This equation can be applied in various fields, such as physics, engineering, and computer science. It can be used to analyze and predict the behavior of systems that exhibit symmetry, such as oscillating systems or systems with rotational symmetry. It can also be used in image or signal processing to manipulate and analyze data through transformations and symmetry operations.

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