Fall into Space-Time's Minimum Point

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between Newtonian gravitation and general relativity in terms of a falling object and the curvature of space time. The point of minimum acceleration and time dilation is explored and it is concluded that spacetime is a measure of how time flows at a point of space relative to an observer in a flat time. Additionally, it is noted that inside a hollow sphere, there are no experienced gravitational accelerations and all clocks inside the sphere tick at the same rate, while clocks outside the sphere tick more slowly the closer they are to the surface.
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Hi there, the most basic formula from Newtonian gravitation is, for a free falling object, x = gt^2/2, where x is the displacement in the vectical direction, in the case of general relativity, this just happens to be for weak gravitational fields, for the sake of simplicity (trying to express my thoughts) let's first talk about a weak one, gt^2/2 look like a parabola, so there is some extreme point which is the minimum, you cannot go further, if space time is a curved manifold too, then there must be some extreme points such the manifold is minimum (like the tip of U), one can say that if spacetime is like that, then we can fall onto it, until we reach that minimum point when we cannot fall anymore, is that point special, what does it represent, how is the time flow relative to other observers away from the curvature, how is space there?
 
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Noctisdark said:
, gt^2/2 look like a parabola,...if space time is a curved manifold too,
You are confusing the extrinsic curvature of a trajectory with the intrinsic curvature of space time.

Noctisdark said:
if spacetime is like that, then we can fall onto it, until we reach that minimum point when we cannot fall anymore, is that point special, what does it represent, how is the time flow relative to other observers away from the curvature, how is space there?
At the center of the Earth you have a locally minimal clock rate.
 
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That local minimum clock rate exist at the center of mass, so at that point of space, time is running so slow relative to some observers, away from the center time is running somewhat "right" to them, so can i conclude that spacetime is a measure of how time flows at a point of space relative to an observer in a flat time ?, for that observer can he say that t = t(x,y,z)?,
 
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Inside a hollow sphere there are no experienced gravitational accelerations. I take it though that a clock at the center ticks more slowly than one at the edge?
 
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1977ub said:
Inside a hollow sphere there are no experienced gravitational accelerations.

Correct--more precisely, spacetime is flat.

1977ub said:
I take it though that a clock at the center ticks more slowly than one at the edge?

No. Clocks everywhere inside the hollow sphere tick at the same rate. But they all tick more slowly than clocks outside the sphere (and clocks outside the sphere tick more slowly the closer they are to the sphere's surface).
 

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