Falling into a massive black hole is not necessarily noticeable

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I find it interesting that the more massive the black hole, the weaker the fall acceleration at the distance of the Schwarzschild radius - that's why you wouldn't necessarily notice anything special in the event horizon.

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And why do you find that in any way strange?
 
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Kekkuli said:
the fall acceleration at the distance of the Schwarzschild radius
##GM / R^2## is not "the fall acceleration" except in a very technical sense: it is the "redshifted" proper acceleration of an observer "hovering" at ##R##. So, for example, if an observer at infinity were holding up an object at ##R## using a very long rope, ##GM / R^2## is the force per unit mass that the observer at infinity would have to exert on the rope. But the object at ##R## would not experience that acceleration; the object's proper acceleration would be ##GM / (R^2 \sqrt{1 - 2GM / (c^2 R)})##.

(Similar remarks apply to the coordinate acceleration of a free-falling object relative to a hovering observer at ##R##, which I suspect is what you are thinking of as "fall acceleration".)

Also, at the Schwarzschild radius, there are no "hovering" observers; it is impossible to "hover" at the Schwarzschild radius, or for an object to be held there by a very long rope, even for an instant. So even the technical sense of "fall acceleration" above is no longer meaningful at the Schwarzschild radius.

Kekkuli said:
that's why you wouldn't necessarily notice anything special in the event horizon
No, it isn't. You wouldn't notice anything special falling through the horizon because spacetime is locally Lorentzian there just like it is everywhere else. It has nothing to do with "fall acceleration".
 
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I would argue that acceleration is much less relevant than tidal forces. And big BH's have small tides.
 
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Kekkuli said:
I find it interesting that the more massive the black hole, the weaker the fall acceleration at the distance of the Schwarzschild radius - that's why you wouldn't necessarily notice anything special in the event horizon.
Saying "notice" you seem to think of tidal force or spaghettification. Yes, the larger the black hole the less you feel it, as already said in #4. The reason is tidal force goes with 1/M².
 

Related to Falling into a massive black hole is not necessarily noticeable

What does it mean to fall into a massive black hole without noticing?

Falling into a massive black hole without noticing means that an observer crossing the event horizon of a sufficiently large black hole would not experience any drastic changes or extreme tidal forces at that moment. The event horizon is the point beyond which nothing can escape the black hole's gravitational pull, but for very large black holes, this boundary can be crossed without any immediate dramatic effects.

Why wouldn't you notice crossing the event horizon of a massive black hole?

In the case of a supermassive black hole, the event horizon is so large that the tidal forces at the boundary are relatively weak. This means that the difference in gravitational pull between your head and your feet (if you were falling feet first) is small, so you wouldn't feel significant stretching or squeezing forces, making the crossing unnoticeable.

What are tidal forces and how do they relate to black holes?

Tidal forces are the differential gravitational forces experienced by an object in a gravitational field. Near a black hole, these forces can become extreme, stretching objects along the direction of the gravitational pull and compressing them perpendicularly. In smaller black holes, these forces are strong enough at the event horizon to be noticeable and potentially lethal. However, for supermassive black holes, these forces are much weaker at the event horizon, making them less noticeable.

Is it possible to survive falling into a black hole?

Surviving the fall into a black hole is theoretically possible if the black hole is supermassive and the tidal forces are weak at the event horizon. However, once inside the event horizon, all paths lead inevitably to the singularity at the center, where the gravitational forces become infinitely strong, and survival is impossible. Additionally, the journey beyond the event horizon is one-way; escape is not possible.

What happens after you cross the event horizon of a black hole?

After crossing the event horizon, you would continue to be pulled towards the black hole's singularity. The gravitational pull would become increasingly intense, and eventually, the tidal forces would become strong enough to overcome any structural integrity, leading to spaghettification, where you would be stretched and compressed. The exact experience of this process is not fully understood due to the extreme conditions and the limitations of our current physical theories.

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