Find (7 - j4) (4 - j3) - complex numbers

I meant "commutative"! Both "commutative" and "associative" apply but I had in mind the fact that you can put the "j" in front of the number. So you can write 4j as j4. I'm sorry! I'll try to be more careful!
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hello I am working on a book on maths and i have come to a part i need help with.

(7-j4)(4-j3) is the equation i know that a^2-2ab+b^2 but what is the formula for abcd

the answer i have to get to is 28-j37-12 from what i know allready i got the 28 and the 12

so if you can help or explain it to me.
 
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morbello said:
hello I am working on a book on maths and i have come to a part i need help with.

(7-j4)(4-j3) is the equation i know that a^2-2ab+b^2 but what is the formula for abcd

the answer i have to get to is 28-j37-12 from what i know allready i got the 28 and the 12

so if you can help or explain it to me.

(7-j4)(4-j3) isn't an equation; it's an expression to be multiplied. When you multiply two binomials (expressions with two terms) you're going to get four products. For this product:
(a + b)(c + d)
you get a*c + a*d + b*c + b*d

It works the same with your problem, but in addition you should simplify any resulting expressions with j^2, which is equal to -1. (Mathematicians usually call the imaginary unit i, sqrt(-1), while engineers usually call it j.)
 
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morbello said:
hello I am working on a book on maths and i have come to a part i need help with.

(7-j4)(4-j3) is the equation i know that a^2-2ab+b^2 but what is the formula for abcd

the answer i have to get to is 28-j37-12 from what i know allready i got the 28 and the 12

so if you can help or explain it to me.
You mean, I take it, that you want to multiply (7- 4j)(4- 3j). Writing the numbers after the variables is confusing- some people will write "j4" to mean "j4". You, of course, wrote "a^2" so you know better, but still...

You also write "i know that a^2-2ab+b^2" which is simply nonsense! I assume you mean that you know "(a- b)(a- b)= a^2- 2ab+ b^2". But do you know how to get that? That's the crucial point. Also, you do NOT "want to get to 28-j37-12", you have mis-copied. What you want to get to is 28- 37j- 12j^2.

"Multiplication is associative"- that simply means that a(b+ c)= ab+ bc which is true for numbers or algebraic expressions. 2(3+ 5)= 2(8)= 16, of course, but also 2(3+ 5)= 2(3)+ 2(5)= 6+ 10= 16.

(a- b)(a- b)= a(a-b)- b(a-b) is one application of that. Using it again, a(a-b)= a^2- ab and b(a-b)= ab- b^2. Putting those together, (a- b)(a- b)= (a^2- ab)-(ab- b^2)= a^2- 2ab+ b^2.

Now try that with (7- 4j)(4- 3j). That is equal to 7(4- 3j)- 4j(4- 3j). 7(4- 3j)= 7(4)- 7(3j)= 28- 21j. 4j(4- 3j)= 4j(4)- 4j(3j)= 16j- 13j^2. Putting those together, (7- 4j)(4- 3j)= (28- 21j)- (16j- 12j^2)= 28- (21-16)j+ 12j^2= 28- 37j+ 12j^2.
 
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thank you it has helped I am sure if i try the exersies in the book now. I will be able to do them.:)
 
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HallsofIvy said:
"Multiplication is associative"- that simply means that a(b+ c)= ab+ bc which is true for numbers or algebraic expressions.

I'm sure you meant "distributive."

Mark
 
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Mark44 said:
I'm sure you meant "distributive."

Mark
Oh, dear, blush, blush! I just shouldn't use big words!
 

FAQ: Find (7 - j4) (4 - j3) - complex numbers

What are complex numbers?

Complex numbers are numbers that contain both a real part and an imaginary part. They are written in the form a + bi, where a is the real part and bi is the imaginary part, with i being the imaginary unit.

How do you find the product of two complex numbers?

To find the product of two complex numbers, you need to use the FOIL method, which stands for First, Outer, Inner, Last. Multiply the first terms, then the outer terms, then the inner terms, and finally the last terms. Combine like terms and simplify if necessary.

What is the difference between a real number and an imaginary number?

A real number is a number that can be plotted on the number line, such as 5 or -2. An imaginary number is a number that is not on the number line and is expressed as a multiple of the imaginary unit, i. For example, 3i is an imaginary number.

How do you simplify complex numbers?

To simplify complex numbers, you need to combine like terms and follow the rules of operations for imaginary numbers. For example, you can only combine terms with the same imaginary part (i.e. 3i and 5i can be combined, but 3i and 2 cannot). You can also use the fact that i^2 = -1 to simplify further.

Can you provide an example of finding the product of two complex numbers?

Yes, using the example given in the question, (7 - j4) (4 - j3), we first multiply the first terms (7 and 4), then the outer terms (7 and -j3), then the inner terms (-j4 and 4), and finally the last terms (-j4 and -j3). This gives us 28 - 7j12 - j12 + 4j^2. Simplifying, we get 28 - 7j12 - j12 - 4. Since j^2 = -1, this becomes 28 - 7j12 + 4 = 32 - 7j12. This is the product of the two complex numbers.

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