Find a basis for W which is subset of V

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In summary, In Steve's opinion, he can prove that W is a subspace of V. He would like to ask about the basis of W.
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Homework Statement
Please see below
Relevant Equations
Span
Linear Independent
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I think I can prove W is a subspace of V. I want to ask about basis of W.

Let $$V = a_1+a_2 \sin t+a_3 \cos t +a_4 \sin (2t)+a_5 \cos (2t)$$
$$W = p(t) = q"(t) + q(t)$$
$$=-a_2 \sin t-a_3 \cos t-4a_4 \sin (2t)-4a_5 \cos(2t)+a_1+a_2 \sin t+a_3 \cos t +a_4 \sin (2t)+a_5 \cos (2t)$$
$$=a_1-3a_4 \sin (2t) -3a_5 \cos (2t)$$
Since all elements in W are linearly independent, the basis for W is {1, sin (2t), cos (2t)}

Am I correct? Thanks
 
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Yes. If [itex]B[/itex] is a basis for [itex]V[/itex] and [itex]L : V \to \dots[/itex] is a linear map, then [itex]L(B)[/itex] spans [itex]L(V)[/itex]. If the non-zero elements of [itex]L(B)[/itex] are linearly independent then they will be a basis for [itex]L(V)[/itex].
 
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Thank you very much pasmith
 
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songoku said:
Homework Statement: Please see below
Relevant Equations: Span
Linear Independent

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I think I can prove W is a subspace of V. I want to ask about basis of W.

Let $$V = a_1+a_2 \sin t+a_3 \cos t +a_4 \sin (2t)+a_5 \cos (2t)$$
$$W = p(t) = q"(t) + q(t)$$
$$=-a_2 \sin t-a_3 \cos t-4a_4 \sin (2t)-4a_5 \cos(2t)+a_1+a_2 \sin t+a_3 \cos t +a_4 \sin (2t)+a_5 \cos (2t)$$
$$=a_1-3a_4 \sin (2t) -3a_5 \cos (2t)$$
Since all elements in W are linearly independent, the basis for W is {1, sin (2t), cos (2t)}

Am I correct? Thanks
Your underlying method is correct but perhaps your proof could be improved.

Your equation
##V = a_1+a_2 \sin t+a_3 \cos t +a_4 \sin (2t)+a_5 \cos (2t)##
looks like you have the space ##V## on the left side and a single vector on the right side. You can’t equate these two different things.

A similar comment applies to ##W = p(t) = q"(t) + q(t)##.

A better way to start might be to say:
Since ##q(t) \in V## we can express ##q(t)## most generally as:
##q(t) = a_1+a_2 \sin t+a_3 \cos t +a_4 \sin (2t)+a_5 \cos (2t)##
And take it from there.
 
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Ah ok, thank you very much Steve4Physics
 

Related to Find a basis for W which is subset of V

What does it mean to find a basis for W which is a subset of V?

Finding a basis for W, which is a subset of V, means identifying a set of linearly independent vectors within W that span the subspace W. This basis set should be composed of vectors that are also elements of the larger vector space V.

How do you determine if a set of vectors is a basis for a subspace W?

A set of vectors is a basis for a subspace W if the vectors are linearly independent and they span W. This means that every vector in W can be expressed as a linear combination of the basis vectors, and no vector in the set can be written as a linear combination of the others.

What is the process to find a basis for a subspace W?

To find a basis for a subspace W, you typically start by identifying a set of vectors that span W. Then, you use methods such as Gaussian elimination to check for linear independence and remove any redundant vectors. The remaining set of vectors will form a basis for W.

Can the basis for W include vectors outside of V?

No, the basis for W cannot include vectors outside of V. Since W is a subspace of V, all vectors in W, and consequently all basis vectors for W, must be elements of V.

What is the significance of the basis of a subspace W in V?

The basis of a subspace W in V is significant because it provides a minimal and efficient way to describe the subspace. It allows for a clear understanding of the structure of W and facilitates various computations within the subspace, such as finding coordinates of vectors and performing linear transformations.

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