Find a complex number z which satisfies a particular condition

In summary, a question is posed asking to find the value of z given two equations. The conversation discusses different attempts at solving the problem, with the final solution being z= (-1±i√3)/2.
  • #1
Seydlitz
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Hello guys!

Homework Statement


The question is like this:

If ##z=\frac{a}{b}## and ##\frac{1}{a+b}=\frac{1}{a}+\frac{1}{b}##, find ##z##.

The Attempt at a Solution


This question is challenging for me because I don't know exactly where to start. The latter condition stated, the sum of the reciprocal of two number is equal to the sum of their reciprocal is already intuitively false for me. You just don't do that kind of operation everyday, and I think it's false for real number. I tried several complex numbers by putting ##a## and ##b## conjugate to each other and see if the condition is true. It's just not true.

I try expressing ##a## and ##b## in rectangular form.

If for example ##a=x+iy##, and ##b=r+is##. (1)
$$\frac{1}{x+iy+r+is}=\frac{(x+r)-i(y+s)}{(x+r)^2+(y+s)^2}$$

On the other hand.
$$\frac{1}{x+iy}=\frac{x-iy}{x^2+y^2}$$
$$\frac{1}{r+is}=\frac{r-is}{r^2+s^2}$$

To sum them up: (2)
$$\frac{(r^2+s^2)(x-iy)+(x^2+y^2)(r-is)}{(x^2+y^2)(r^2+s^2)}$$

I don't see how (1) and (2) can be equal somehow by cleverly choosing the right ##a## and ##b##. On the denominator of (1) you already get addition, but then in (2) you have multiplication. Maybe if ##(x^2+y^2)## and ##(r^2+s^2)## are both ##2##, we can have the point where addition is equal to multiplication. I am not certain and I hope you can enlighten me on this.

Thank You
 
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  • #2
Hello Seydlitz! :smile:

Have you been at the coffee? :wink:

1/(a+b) = 1/a + 1/b = (a + b)/ab … and solve!​
 
  • #3
tiny-tim said:
Hello Seydlitz! :smile:

Have you been at the coffee? :wink:

1/(a+b) = 1/a + 1/b = (a + b)/ab … and solve!​

Strange, I've tried it before and it leads to ##ab=1##?
 
  • #4
?? :confused:

try it again …

you should get a/b = something :smile:
 
  • #5
tiny-tim said:
?? :confused:

try it again …

you should get a/b = something :smile:

Woops..I made bad mistake on the way. I cancel (a+b) blatantly.

Is ##\frac{a}{b}=\frac{-b}{a+b}##?
 
  • #6
nooo :redface:

show us your calculations :smile:
 
  • #7
tiny-tim said:
nooo :redface:
Try that again, tiny-tim.

What Seydlitz posted is correct. It's just not very useful.
 
  • #8
tiny-tim said:
nooo :redface:

show us your calculations :smile:

So the only equation is this right?
##\frac{1}{a+b}=\frac{a+b}{ab}##
##\frac{a}{a+b}=\frac{a+b}{b}##
##\frac{a}{a+b}=\frac{a}{b}+1##
##\frac{a}{a+b}-1=\frac{a}{b}##
##\frac{a-(a-b)}{a+b}=\frac{a}{b}##
##\frac{-b}{a+b}=\frac{a}{b}##

Are we expecting a numerical or symbolic answer to this question?
(I haven't eaten yet..)
 
  • #9
D H said:
Try that again, tiny-tim.

What Seydlitz posted is correct. It's just not very useful.

ahh!

Seydlitz, 1/a+b = (a+b)/ab

=> ab = (a+b)2

carry on from there :smile:
 
  • #10
Hint: in the end substitute z=a/b to make the calculation simpler.
 
  • #11
One more hint: a/b = ab * what? Now multiply both sides of ab=something by this what to get an expression for a/b=z.
 
  • #12
tiny-tim said:
nooo :redface:

show us your calculations :smile:

$$z=\frac{-1\pm i\sqrt{3}}{2}$$

Huzzzah!

Thank you everybody, especially tiny-tim for being particularly patient with me. I'm that clunky sometimes haha.
 

Related to Find a complex number z which satisfies a particular condition

1. What is a complex number?

A complex number is a number that contains both a real part and an imaginary part. It is written in the form a + bi, where a is the real part and bi is the imaginary part, with i being the square root of -1.

2. How do I find a complex number that satisfies a certain condition?

To find a complex number that satisfies a condition, you can use algebraic techniques such as solving equations or using the quadratic formula. You can also use geometric methods, such as plotting the complex numbers on a complex plane.

3. What are some common conditions that a complex number might need to satisfy?

Some common conditions for a complex number include being a root of a polynomial equation, satisfying a particular inequality, or being part of a geometric pattern.

4. What are some applications of finding complex numbers that satisfy a condition?

Finding complex numbers that satisfy a condition can be useful in a variety of fields, including engineering, physics, and computer science. It can be used to model and solve problems involving electrical circuits, fluid dynamics, and signal processing.

5. Is there more than one complex number that can satisfy a given condition?

Yes, there can be multiple complex numbers that satisfy a given condition. This is because complex numbers have both a real and imaginary component, allowing for a wide range of possible values that can satisfy a condition.

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