Find all pairs of real numbers

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In summary, "Find all pairs of real numbers" means identifying all possible combinations of two numbers that are both real numbers. This can be done using a systematic approach such as creating a table or using a formula. Finding all pairs of real numbers has important applications in various fields and there can be an infinite number of pairs of real numbers. However, there may be restrictions or limitations to consider when finding these pairs.
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Here is this week's POTW:

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Find all pairs of real numbers $(x,y)$ satisfying the system of equations
\begin{align*}
\frac{1}{x} + \frac{1}{2y} &= (x^2+3y^2)(3x^2+y^2) \\
\frac{1}{x} - \frac{1}{2y} &= 2(y^4-x^4).
\end{align*}

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Re: Problem Of The Week # 278 - Aug 29, 2017

This was Problem B-2 in the 2001 William Lowell Putnam Mathematical Competition.

Congratulations to Kiwi for his correct solution, which follows. Also, an honorable mention to Opalg for a correct but indirect solution.

[EDIT] See below for a correction.

[sp]Taking the first equation and subtracting 1/3 of the second equation gives:
$\frac 1x + \frac 1{2y}-\frac 1{3x}+\frac 1 {6y}=3x^4+3y^4+10x^2y^2-\frac 23 y^4 + \frac 23 x^4$

$\therefore \frac 2{3x} + \frac 2{3y}-3x^4-3y^4-10x^2y^2=-\frac 23 y^4 + \frac 23 x^4$

Now notice that the LHS has the property that we can interchange x and y without affecting the result. Therefore, the RHS must have this property and:

$ -\frac 23 x^4 + \frac 23 y^4=-\frac 23 y^4 + \frac 23 x^4$

$\therefore \frac 43 y^4= \frac 43 x^4$

$\therefore y^4= x^4$

So $x=\pm y$ and $x^2=y^2$

Making substitutions into the second of the given equations gives:

$\frac 1x \pm \frac 1{2x}=0$ so x has no solution.

In conclusion the given set of equations has no solution.[/sp]
 
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Re: Problem Of The Week # 278 - Aug 29, 2017

A user has pointed out that Kiwi's solution is not actually correct. The step that I initially thought was the clever step (reasoning by reversing the $x$ and $y$ on the LHS and therefore also on the RHS) is incorrect. The correct solution, attributed to Kiran Kedlaya and his associates, follows:

[sp]By adding and subtracting the two given equations, we obtain the equivalent pair of equations
\begin{align*}
2/x &= x^4 + 10x^2y^2 + 5y^4 \\
1/y &= 5x^4 + 10x^2y^2 + y^4.
\end{align*}
Multiplying the former by $x$ and the latter by $y$, then adding and subtracting the two resulting equations, we obtain another pair of equations equivalent to the given ones,
\[
3 = (x+y)^5, \qquad 1 = (x-y)^5.
\]
It follows that $x = (3^{1/5}+1)/2$ and $y = (3^{1/5}-1)/2$ is the unique solution satisfying the given equations. [/sp]
 

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