Find All Subgroups of A = {1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 43, 64} | Group Theory Question

In summary, the conversation discusses determining all subgroups of a cyclic group of order 8, where A = {1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 43, 64}. The attempt at a solution includes finding four distinct subgroups: <1>, <2>, <4>, and <16>, with the possibility of <2> = <8> = <43> and so on. The justification for this solution is based on the theorem that for a cyclic group of order n, there is exactly one subgroup for each divisor of n.
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Homework Statement


Determine all the subgroups of (A,x_85) justify.
where A = {1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 43, 64}.

The Attempt at a Solution


To determine all of the subgroups of A, we find the distinct subgroups of A.
<1> = {1}
<2> = {1,2,4..} and so on?
<4> = ...
...

is this true? are there any other possible subgroups, i know i havnt posted my full solution.
 
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HMPARTICLE said:

Homework Statement


Determine all the subgroups of (A,x_85) justify.
where A = {1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 43, 64}.

The Attempt at a Solution


To determine all of the subgroups of A, we find the distinct subgroups of A.
<1> = {1}
<2> = {1,2,4..} and so on?
<4> = ...
...

is this true? are there any other possible subgroups, i know i havnt posted my full solution.

Ok, so you're dealing with a group of integers under multiplication mod 85. I think you should fill in the ...'s before anyone can figure out whether you have all of the subgroups.
 
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<1> = {1}
<2> = {1,2,4, 8,16,32,43,64}
<4> = {4,16,64,1}
<8> = {1,2,4, 8,16,32,43,64}
<16> = {16,1}

Them are all the distinct subgroups of the group. for example. <2> = <43> .
 
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HMPARTICLE said:
<1> = {1}
<2> = {1,2,4, 8,16,32,43,64}
<4> = {4,16,64,1}
<8> = {1,2,4, 8,16,32,43,64}
<16> = {16,1}

Them are all the distinct subgroups of the group. for example. <2> = <43> .

<2> and <8> aren't really distinct, are they? There are only four distinct subgroups. And I'm not sure what you are supposed to supply for justification. In a general group a subgroup might have more than one generator. But do you know what a cyclic group is?
 
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Yes. A cyclic group is a group with order n which contains an element of order n. Or better still a cyclic group is a group which contains an element that generates the group. 2 and 8 are not distinct! Silly me!

I can't think of any other subgroups. I think I may have to show that <2> = <8> = <43> and so on?
 
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HMPARTICLE said:
Yes. A cyclic group is a group with order n which contains an element of order n. Or better still a cyclic group is a group which contains an element that generates the group. 2 and 8 are not distinct! Silly me!

I can't think of any other subgroups. I think I may have to show that <2> = <8> = <43> and so on?

There is a theorem that if you have a cyclic group of order n then there is exactly one subgroup for each divisor of n. Since the four divisors of 8 are 1,2,4,8 then once you find four subgroups you know you are done.
 
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I am aware of this theorem!
Thank you so much!
 

FAQ: Find All Subgroups of A = {1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 43, 64} | Group Theory Question

What is a subgroup in group theory?

A subgroup is a subset of a group that also forms a group under the same operation as the original group. In other words, a subgroup contains elements from the original group and follows the same rules of operation, such as closure, associativity, and identity.

How do you find all subgroups of a given group?

To find all subgroups of a given group, you can use the subgroup criterion, which states that a subset of a group is a subgroup if it contains the identity element, is closed under the group operation, and contains the inverse of each element in the subset. You can also use other methods such as Lagrange's theorem or the properties of cyclic groups to find subgroups.

What are the subgroups of A = {1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 43, 64}?

The subgroups of A are {1}, {1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 43, 64}, {1, 2, 4, 8, 16}, {1, 4, 16}, and {1, 64}. This is because these subsets satisfy the subgroup criterion and are therefore subgroups of A.

How many subgroups can a group have?

The number of subgroups a group can have is determined by Lagrange's theorem, which states that the order of a subgroup must divide the order of the original group. Therefore, the number of subgroups of a group will always be a divisor of the order of the group. In the case of A = {1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 43, 64}, there are 5 subgroups.

What is the significance of finding all subgroups of a group?

Finding all subgroups of a group is important in group theory because subgroups can provide insight into the structure and properties of the original group. They can also be used to classify groups and understand their relationships with other groups. Additionally, subgroups can be used to prove theorems and solve problems in various mathematical fields.

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