Find all subsets of the octic group.

In summary: In this case, the group is clearly isomorphic to S3xZ2. From this it follows that the number of subgroups is 2+3+2+1=8.In summary, The group G = {e, a, a^2, a^3, b, y, D (delta), T (theta)} has an order of 8 and there are 8 subgroups of G, which are: {e}, {e, a^2}, {e, b}, {e, y}, {e, D}, {e, T}, {e, a, a^3}, and {e, a, a^2, a^3}. There is a method for finding
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Homework Statement


G = {e, a, a^2, a^3, b, y, D (delta), T (theta)} Where e=(1), a=(1, 2, 3, 4), a^2 = (1, 3)(2, 4), a^3 = (1, 4, 3, 2), b = (1, 4)(2, 3), y = (2, 4), D = (1, 2)(3, 4), T = (1, 3)

Find the subsets.


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I know that the order of G is 8. So, my subsets should have an order of 1, 2, 4, or 8

The Attempt at a Solution



I am looking at other examples and I do not understand how they make the subgroups. Is it just guessing or is there a method.

By googling, I know that there are 10 subgroups. So my subgroups with order 1 are just {e}, subgroups with order 2 are {e, a^2} {e, b} {e , y} {e, D}, {e, T}

The next ones are where I get confused. I would think that my subgroups with order 4 would be {e, a} and {e, a^3} but internet resources say that it is {e, a, a^3} but why?

And, using {e, a, a^3}, i only get 8 subgroups (including G). What are the other two?

I suppose my general question is: is there a method?
Thanks!
 
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amanda_ou812 said:

Homework Statement


G = {e, a, a^2, a^3, b, y, D (delta), T (theta)} Where e=(1), a=(1, 2, 3, 4), a^2 = (1, 3)(2, 4), a^3 = (1, 4, 3, 2), b = (1, 4)(2, 3), y = (2, 4), D = (1, 2)(3, 4), T = (1, 3)

Find the subsets.


Homework Equations



I know that the order of G is 8. So, my subsets should have an order of 1, 2, 4, or 8

The Attempt at a Solution



I am looking at other examples and I do not understand how they make the subgroups. Is it just guessing or is there a method.

By googling, I know that there are 10 subgroups. So my subgroups with order 1 are just {e}, subgroups with order 2 are {e, a^2} {e, b} {e , y} {e, D}, {e, T}

The next ones are where I get confused. I would think that my subgroups with order 4 would be {e, a} and {e, a^3} but internet resources say that it is {e, a, a^3} but why?

And, using {e, a, a^3}, i only get 8 subgroups (including G). What are the other two?

I suppose my general question is: is there a method?
Thanks!

Hmm, you're the second one on this forum asking the exact same question...

Anyway, some remarks:
1) You probably mean subgroup instead of subset.
2) Neither {e, a}, {e,a3} or {e,a,a3} is a subgroup. The reason is that subgroups must be closed under the operation. So if a is in the subgroup, then so must a*a.
3) There is a method. First find all cyclic subgroups, then find the subgroups generated by two elements, then find the subgroups generated by three elements, and so on. This seems to be a lot of work, but it isn't if you're a bit smart.
 

FAQ: Find all subsets of the octic group.

What is the octic group?

The octic group, also known as the dihedral group of order 8, is a mathematical group consisting of eight elements. It is denoted by D8 and can be represented by the symmetries of a regular octagon.

What are subsets?

Subsets are a collection of elements from a larger set. In the context of the octic group, subsets would be a collection of elements from the group that satisfy certain conditions or properties.

How many subsets can the octic group have?

The octic group has a total of 16 subsets. This can be calculated using the formula 2n, where n is the number of elements in the group. In this case, n=8, so 28=16 subsets.

How do you find all the subsets of the octic group?

To find all the subsets of the octic group, we can use a systematic approach by listing out all the possible combinations of elements and checking if they satisfy the conditions of being a subgroup of the octic group. This can also be done using mathematical software or programming languages.

What is the significance of finding all subsets of the octic group?

Finding all subsets of the octic group can help us understand the structure and properties of the group better. It can also be useful in solving problems and making connections to other mathematical concepts. Additionally, it is an important step in studying group theory and abstract algebra.

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