MHB Find $\frac{a}{b}$ in the Circle of Balls

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The discussion focuses on finding the ratio $\frac{a}{b}$ in a geometric problem involving circles. Users are encouraged to share their progress to receive targeted help. Key equations are established, including $c = \frac{1}{2}a = \frac{1}{2}b - r$ and $b = 2c + 2r$. The connection between $a$, $b$, and $r$ is derived using Pythagorean theorem applications in specific triangles. The final answer proposed for the ratio $\frac{a}{b}$ is confirmed to be $\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}$.
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maxkor said:
How find $\frac{a}{b}$

Hi maxkor! (Smile)

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Let 1/2b radius of the big circle, let r radius of the smaller circle
Let $c=1/2a=1/2b−r,
b=2c+2r,
a=2c.$
So $\frac{a}{b}=\frac{2c}{2c+2r}=\frac{c}{c+r}$
Small circles respectively tangential to the large circles so
$z=c+2r,t=a−r=2c−r$

Is this right?
 

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Use Pythagoras in the triangles $CXY$, $DXY$ (where $Y$ is the centre of one of the footballs) to find two expressions for $XY^2$ in terms of $a$, $b$ and $r$. Putting those expressions equal to each other will give you an equation connecting $a$, $b$ and $r$.

You already know that $r = \frac12(b-a)$ (from your equation $c = \frac12a = \frac12b-r$). Substitute that value of $r$ into your equation, and it will give you the connection between $a$ and $b$.
 

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Is $\frac{a}{b}=\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}$ correct answer?
 
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Is $\frac{a}{b}=\frac{\sqrt{2}}{2}$ correct answer?
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