Find ##\frac{dh}{dt}## in the problem involving related change.

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In summary, the steps to solving the problem are clear and the author makes use of implicit differentiation.
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The steps to solution are very much clear...the author made use of implicit differentiation. Now, would i be right to have;

##\dfrac{dV}{dt}=\dfrac{dV}{dh}\cdot \dfrac{dh}{dt}+ \dfrac{dV}{dr}\cdot \dfrac{dr}{dt}##

##-2=\dfrac{1}{3}π×\left[\dfrac{5}{14} h\right]^2\dfrac{dh}{dt}+\dfrac{2}{3}π ×\left[\dfrac{5}{14} h\right]h\dfrac{dr}{dt}##

We know that ##r=\dfrac{5}{14} h,## therefore ##\dfrac{dr}{dt}=\dfrac{5}{14}\dfrac{dh}{dt}##

##-2=\dfrac{1}{3}π×4.5918\dfrac{dh}{dt}+\dfrac{2}{3}π×12.857×\left[\dfrac{5}{14} h\right]h\dfrac{dr}{dt}##

##-2=4.8084\dfrac{dh}{dt}+9.6170\dfrac{dh}{dt}##

##-2=14.4254 \dfrac{dh}{dt}##

##\dfrac{dh}{dt}=-0.1386##

Your thoughts...i hope i did not just go round and round on the implicit approach...but hey that's how i think on this.
 
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The steps to solution are very much clear...the author made use of implicit differentiation. Now, would i be right to have;
##\dfrac{dv}{dt}=\dfrac{dv}{dh}\cdot \dfrac{dh}{dt}+ \dfrac{dv}{dr}\cdot \dfrac{dr}{dt}##
##-2=\dfrac{1}{3}π\cdot \left[\dfrac{5}{14} h\right]^2⋅\dfrac{dh}{dt}+\dfrac{2}{3}π\cdot \left[\dfrac{5}{14} h\right]⋅h⋅\dfrac{dr}{dt}##
Certainly volume V is a function of both r and h, but due to the fact that every vertical cross-section of the cone is a triangle, it's much more convenient (and a lot easier) to treat r as a linear function of h (or vice versa), which makes V a function of a single variable.

Later edit: Another problem with your approach is that you're given neither dr/dt nor dh/dt. In what I described in the previous paragraph, the text you quoted actually gives the linear relationship between h and r; namely, ##r = \frac 5{14}h##. By replacing r in the equation for V for the cone, V can be written as a function of h alone.

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  • Your total derivative above, ##\dfrac{dv}{dt}## should be written in terms of the partial derivatives of volume with respect to r and h respectively. That is, in terms of ##\frac{\partial V}{\partial r}## and ##\frac{\partial V}{\partial h}##, not as ordinary derivatives.
  • Stylewise, V is traditionally used for volume while v (lowercase) is used for velocity.
 
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FAQ: Find ##\frac{dh}{dt}## in the problem involving related change.

What is "Find ##\frac{dh}{dt}##" and why is it important in problems involving related change?

##\frac{dh}{dt}## is the derivative of the function h with respect to time. It represents the rate of change of h over time, which is important in problems involving related change because it helps us understand how one variable is changing in relation to another.

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