Find maximal a and minimal b in (1+1/n)^(n+a)≤e≤(1+1/n)^(n+b)

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In summary, finding the maximal a and minimal b in the given equation allows us to determine the range of values for which the inequality holds true, helping us to better understand the expression and make accurate calculations or predictions. The maximal a and minimal b can be found using mathematical techniques such as differentiation and limits, or through numerical methods or graphing. These values can also be negative, as the expression can take on negative values for certain values of a and can be less than or equal to e for certain values of b. As the value of n increases, the maximal a and minimal b tend to approach 0, since the expression approaches e and 1 respectively. Additionally, the maximal a and minimal b can be irrational numbers, as the expression
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What is the maximal $a$ and the minimal $b$, such that:

$$\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^{n+a} \le e \le \left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^{n+b} $$

holds for all natural numbers, $n$?
 
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lfdahl said:
What is the maximal $a$ and the minimal $b$, such that:

$$\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^{n+a} \le e \le \left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^{n+b} $$

holds for all natural numbers, $n$?

\(\displaystyle a=0,\quad b=\log_2(e)-1\)
 
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greg1313 said:
\(\displaystyle a=0,\quad b=\log_2(e)-1\)
Hi, greg1313! Your answer is not correct. :(
 
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I've been puzzling about this and by now I believe that the solution is $a=\frac 1{\ln 2} - 1=\log_2 e -1$ and $b=\frac 12$.
However, I can't quite prove it yet.
Either way, $a$ follows since it means that for $n=1$ it's an equality, and for higher $n$ it's below $e$.
We can find this $a$ by setting $(1+\frac 11)^{1+a}=e$,
$b=\frac 12$ is where the graph switches from an ascending graph for sufficiently high $n$ to a descending graph.
More generally, the graph changes from one with an intersection with $y=e$ for a positive value of $n$ to one with a negative value of $n$.
 
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I like Serena said:
I've been puzzling about this and by now I believe that the solution is $a=\frac 1{\ln 2} - 1=\log_2 e -1$ and $b=\frac 12$.
However, I can't quite prove it yet.
Either way, $a$ follows since it means that for $n=1$ it's an equality, and for higher $n$ it's below $e$.
We can find this $a$ by setting $(1+\frac 11)^{1+a}=e$,
$b=\frac 12$ is where the graph switches from an ascending graph for sufficiently high $n$ to a descending graph.
More generally, the graph changes from one with an intersection with $y=e$ for a positive value of $n$ to one with a negative value of $n$.

Hi, I like Serena!
I can verify your presumption!;)
The way your graph varies, I don´t quite follow, but the values are correct.
 
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Hint:

Analyse the behaviour of the function:

$$f(x) = \frac{1}{\ln (1+\frac{1}{x})}-x, \;\;\; x \ge 1.$$
 
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Here´s the suggested solution:

The answer is $a_{max}=\frac{1}{\ln 2}-1$ and $b_{min}=\frac{1}{2}$. Consider the function:
\[f(x)=\frac{1}{\ln (1+\frac{1}{x})}-x\] with \[f(1)=\frac{1}{\ln (2)}-1>0.\]
Applying L´Hospitals rule twice, we have
\[\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}f(x)=^{L´H} \lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} \frac{-\ln (1+\frac{1}{x})+\frac{1}{1+x}}{\frac{1}{1+x}-\frac{1}{x}}=^{LH} \lim_{x\rightarrow \infty} \frac{\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{1+x}-\frac{1}{(1+x)^2}}{\frac{1}{x^2}-\frac{1}{(1+x)^2}} \\\\ = \lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}\frac{\frac{1}{1+x}}{\frac{1}{x}+\frac{1}{1+x}} = \frac{1}{2}\]

Now, we prove that $f$ is increasing. In what follows, consider the three functions: $f,g,h : [1, \infty) \rightarrow \mathbb{R}$.
\[f'(x) = \frac{g(x)}{(\ln (1+\frac{1}{x}))^2}\] where \[g(x) = \frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{1+x}-( \ln ( 1+1/x ) )^2\].
\[g'(x) = \left ( \frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{1+x} \right )h(x)\] where \[h(x) = 2\ln (1+1/x)-\frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{1+x}\]
and \[h'(x) = \left ( \frac{1}{x}-\frac{1}{1+x} \right )^2 > 0.\] Therefore $h$ is increasing. Now, $\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}h(x) = 0$, and so $h < 0$. Therefore $g’(x) < 0$, $g$ is decreasing. Again:
$\lim_{x\rightarrow \infty}g(x) = 0$, and so $g(x) > 0$. Therefore $f’(x) > 0$, and so $f(x)$ is increasing.
Hence $f(1) \le f(x) < \frac{1}{2}$, so \[\ln \left ( 1+\frac{1}{x} \right )^{x+f(1)} \leq 1 \leq \ln \left ( 1+\frac{1}{x} \right )^{x+\frac{1}{2}}\].
Thus, we get for any $n \in \mathbb{N}$:

\[\left ( 1+\frac{1}{n} \right )^{n+\frac{1}{\ln 2}-1} \leq e < \left ( 1+\frac{1}{n} \right )^{n+\frac{1}{2}}.\]
Note, that $b_{min} = \frac{1}{2}$ is optimal but there is no $n$, such that the equality holds in the right side of the double inequality.
 

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