Find Min Value of $a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2$ w/ Given Constraint

In summary, the minimum of $a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2$ given $a+2b+3c+4d=1$ for all real $a,\,b,\,c$ and $d$ can be found by using the Cauchy Schwartz inequality. This approach yields the same result as MarkFL's solution.
  • #1
anemone
Gold Member
MHB
POTW Director
3,883
115
Find the minimum of $a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2$ given $a+2b+3d+4d=1$ for all real $a,\,b,\,c$ and $d$.
 
Mathematics news on Phys.org
  • #2
anemone said:
Find the minimum of $a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2$ given $a+2b+3d+4d=1$ for all real $a,\,b,\,c$ and $d$.
minimum=$\dfrac {1}{5}$
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #3
Albert said:
minimum=$\dfrac {1}{5}$

Hi Albert!

Nice try!:) But, I'm sorry, your answer isn't correct...:(
 
  • #4
Another method:

Using Cauchy Schwarz inequality:
$(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)\times (1^2+1^2+1^2+1^2)\ge (a+b+c+d)^2$
$\therefore (a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)\ge \dfrac {(a+b+c+d)^2}{4}$
so we will find min$(\dfrac {5(a+b+c+d)^2}{4}$)
equality will occur when $a=b=c=d=\dfrac {1}{10}$ for $a+2b+3c+4d=1$
and we get minimum=$\dfrac {1}{5}$
what 's wrong with the answer ?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • #5
Another method:

Using Cauchy Schwarz inequality:
$(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)\times (1^2+1^2+1^2+1^2)\ge (a+b+c+d)^2$
$\therefore (a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2)\ge \dfrac {(a+b+c+d)^2}{4}$
so we will find min$(\dfrac {5(a+b+c+d)^2}{4}$)
equality will occur when $a=b=c=d=\dfrac {1}{10}$ for $a+2b+3c+4d=1$
and we get minimum=$\dfrac {1}{5}$
what 's wrong with the answer ?

Hi Albert,

At first glance, there seems like your solution works...but looking at it more closely, I think you have transformed the given target expression and what you are after now is the minimum of $\dfrac {5(a+b+c+d)^2}{4}$, and upon checking it with wolfram, $\dfrac {5(a+b+c+d)^2}{4}\ge 0$ if $a+2b+3c+4d=1$...

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Find+the+minimum+of+5%28a%2Bb%2Bc%2Bd%29^2%2F4+if+a%2B2b%2B3c%2B4d%3D1
 
  • #6
My solution:

If we set the objective function as:

\(\displaystyle f(a,b,c,d)=a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2\)

subject to the constraint:

\(\displaystyle g(a,b,c,d)=a+2b+3d+4d-1=0\)

Then, Lagrange multipliers gives us:

\(\displaystyle 2a+2(a+b+c+d)=\lambda\)

\(\displaystyle 2b+2(a+b+c+d)=2\lambda\)

\(\displaystyle 2c+2(a+b+c+d)=3\lambda\)

\(\displaystyle 2d+2(a+b+c+d)=4\lambda\)

Now, adding these 4 equations, we find:

\(\displaystyle \lambda=a+b+c+d\)

and then we observe that the second equation gives us $b=0$ and we are left with:

\(\displaystyle 3a+c+d=0\)

\(\displaystyle c-a-d=0\)

\(\displaystyle a+c=0\)

Now, these imply:

\(\displaystyle c=-a\)

\(\displaystyle d=-2a\)

And so substituting into the constraint, we find:

\(\displaystyle a+2(0)+3(-a)+4(-2a)=1\implies a=-\frac{1}{10}\)

and so we have the critical point:

\(\displaystyle (a,b,c,d)=\left(-\frac{1}{10},0,\frac{1}{10},\frac{1}{5}\right)\)

And we then find:

\(\displaystyle f\left(-\frac{1}{10},0,\frac{1}{10},\frac{1}{5}\right)=\frac{1}{100}+0+\frac{1}{100}+\frac{1}{25}+\frac{1}{25}=\frac{1}{10}\)

Now, to determine whether this extremum is a minimum or maximum, let's look at the point:

\(\displaystyle (a,b,c,d)=(1,0,0,0)\)

We find:

\(\displaystyle f(1,0,0,0)=1+1=2>\frac{1}{10}\)

Hence, we may then conclude:

\(\displaystyle f_{\min}=\frac{1}{10}\)
 
  • #7
Very well done, MarkFL!

I hope Albert or anyone else could try again with the Cauchy Schwartz inequality, it can still be used in a more implicit way so to find the minimum that agrees with Mark's answer.
 
  • #8
anemone said:
Very well done, MarkFL!

I hope Albert or anyone else could try again with the Cauchy Schwartz inequality, it can still be used in a more implicit way so to find the minimum that agrees with Mark's answer.
please show your solution using the Cauchy Schwartz inequality
 
  • #9
Here goes:

anemone said:
Find the minimum of $a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2$ given $a+2b+3d+4d=1$ for all real $a,\,b,\,c$ and $d$.

I didn't realize until now that I had a typo in the original problem, where the $3d$ in $a+2b+3d+4d=1$ should be a $3c$. Sorry! (Tmi)

Solution of other:

$((-a)+(0b)+(c)+(2d)+2(a+b+c+d))^2\le ((-1)^2+(0)^2+1^2+2^2+2^2)(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2)$

$(a+2b+3d+4d)^2\le (1+0+1+4+4)(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2)$

$1\le 10(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2)$

$a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2 \ge \dfrac{1}{10}$, equality occurs when $a=-0.1,\,b=0,\,c=0.1,\,d=0.2$.
 
  • #10
anemone said:
Here goes:
I didn't realize until now that I had a typo in the original problem, where the $3d$ in $a+2b+3d+4d=1$ should be a $3c$. Sorry! (Tmi)

Solution of other:

$((-a)+(0b)+(c)+(2d)+2(a+b+c+d))^2\le ((-1)^2+(0)^2+1^2+2^2+2^2)(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2)$

$(a+2b+3d+4d)^2\le (1+0+1+4+4)(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2)$

$1\le 10(a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2)$

$a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2 \ge \dfrac{1}{10}$, equality occurs when $a=-0.1,\,b=0,\,c=0.1,\,d=0.2$.
very skillful !
 

FAQ: Find Min Value of $a^2+b^2+c^2+d^2+(a+b+c+d)^2$ w/ Given Constraint

What is the given constraint for finding the minimum value of the expression?

The given constraint for finding the minimum value of the expression is that all variables (a, b, c, d) must be real numbers.

Is there a specific method for finding the minimum value of this expression?

Yes, there is a specific method called the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality that can be used to find the minimum value of this expression.

Can the minimum value of the expression be negative?

No, the minimum value of the expression cannot be negative because all of the variables are squared, which ensures a positive result.

Does the order of the variables (a, b, c, d) matter in finding the minimum value?

No, the order of the variables does not matter as the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality is symmetrical and the minimum value will be the same regardless of the order of the variables.

Is there a specific range of values for the variables that must be considered?

Yes, the variables must be considered within the real numbers, but there is no specific range as they can take on any value within this set.

Similar threads

Replies
1
Views
834
Replies
1
Views
862
Replies
1
Views
958
Replies
1
Views
746
Replies
1
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
919
Back
Top