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- Deriving an equation to calculate the time period of a circular-orbiting source from an observer at a distance away from the circle based on max frequency observed
This question refers to Doppler Effects observed in circular motion (at non relativistic speeds, so ##v\ll c##, ignoring transversal Doppler shifts).
Suppose there is a source emitting a frequency, ##f_s##. An observer at the center will experience no shift in observed frequency (##f_r##). As they move towards the circle of motion, ##f_r## starts to shift up and down "sinusoidally". I use quotes, as it starts go skew as the observer approaches the source's orbit, because ##f_r## gradually increases as the source approaches, and then instantly drop to a minimum after it passes the observer.
My goal here is to derive an equation that, given the parameters of this environment:
$$\begin{array}{l}{{X:Distance\;of\;observer\;from\;center}}\\ {{R:Radius\;of\;orbit\;of\;source}}\\ {{C:Speed\;of\;wave\;in\;medium}}\\ {{f_{\mathrm{max}}\;:Maximum\;observed\;frequency}}\\ {{f_{\mathrm{s}}\;:Source\;frequency}}\end{array}$$
I've tried my hand at deriving something, but it is *almost* correct. It just breaks down when ##X## approaches ##R## and the sinusoidal-look starts to break down and the actual Time period, ##T_s##, starts to deviate from the actual value. Here's my take:
The source moves in a circle of radius ##R##, with its position as a function of time:
$$\mathbf{r}_{s}(t)=(R\cos(\omega t),R\sin(\omega t)),$$
where ##ω=2π/T_s## is the angular frequency of the source, and ##T_s=1/f_s## is its time period.
And for the distance,
$$d(t)=\sqrt{(R\cos(\omega t)-X)^{2}+(R\sin(\omega t))^{2}}$$
$$d(t)=\sqrt{R^{2}-2R X\cos(\omega t)+X^{2}}$$
From the Doppler Effect equation,
$$f_{r}(t)=f_{s}\left(1-\frac{v_{\mathrm{rel}}(t)}{c}\right)$$
Substituting ##v_{rel}##,
$$f_{r}(t)=f_{s}\left(1+\frac{R\omega X\sin(\omega t)}{c\sqrt{R^{2}-2R X\cos(\omega t)+X^{2}}}\right)$$
Since the maximum ##f_r## occurs when ##sin(\omega t)=1##,
$$f_{\mathrm{max}}=f_{s}\left(1+{\frac{R\omega X}{c\sqrt{R^{2}+X^{2}-2R X\cos(\pi)}}}\right)$$
$$f_{\mathrm{max}}=f_{s}\left(1+\frac{R\omega X}{c(X+R)}\right)$$
Since ##\omega = 2\pi/T_s##,
$$f_{\mathrm{max}}=f_{s}\left(1+{\frac{2\pi R X}{c T_{s}(X+R)}}\right)$$
$$T_{s}=\frac{2\pi R X}{c(X+R)\left(\frac{f_{\mathrm{max}}}{f_{s}}-1\right)}$$
This equation is almost right. I do not know where to proceed from here. My go at it might also be completely incorrect. Additionally, here is the equation I used to check the "actual" values of T should be:
$$d\left(t\right)=\sqrt{\left(R^{2}-2RX\cos\left(\omega t\right)+X^{2}\right)}$$
$${\frac{f_{r}}{f_{s}}}={\frac{1-{\frac{v}{c}}\cos\theta}{\sqrt{1-{\frac{v^{2}}{c^{2}}}}}}$$
$$r_{rel}=-v\cos{\theta}=\frac{d}{dt}\left(d\left(t\right)\right)$$
$$\boxed{f_{r}=f_{s}\left(1-\frac{r_{rel}}{c}\right)}$$
With this form of the equation, ##\omega## cannot be separated to only one side of the equation, right? I don't suppose the above equation can be used to rearrange it to get what I want?
Suppose there is a source emitting a frequency, ##f_s##. An observer at the center will experience no shift in observed frequency (##f_r##). As they move towards the circle of motion, ##f_r## starts to shift up and down "sinusoidally". I use quotes, as it starts go skew as the observer approaches the source's orbit, because ##f_r## gradually increases as the source approaches, and then instantly drop to a minimum after it passes the observer.
My goal here is to derive an equation that, given the parameters of this environment:
$$\begin{array}{l}{{X:Distance\;of\;observer\;from\;center}}\\ {{R:Radius\;of\;orbit\;of\;source}}\\ {{C:Speed\;of\;wave\;in\;medium}}\\ {{f_{\mathrm{max}}\;:Maximum\;observed\;frequency}}\\ {{f_{\mathrm{s}}\;:Source\;frequency}}\end{array}$$
I've tried my hand at deriving something, but it is *almost* correct. It just breaks down when ##X## approaches ##R## and the sinusoidal-look starts to break down and the actual Time period, ##T_s##, starts to deviate from the actual value. Here's my take:
The source moves in a circle of radius ##R##, with its position as a function of time:
$$\mathbf{r}_{s}(t)=(R\cos(\omega t),R\sin(\omega t)),$$
where ##ω=2π/T_s## is the angular frequency of the source, and ##T_s=1/f_s## is its time period.
And for the distance,
$$d(t)=\sqrt{(R\cos(\omega t)-X)^{2}+(R\sin(\omega t))^{2}}$$
$$d(t)=\sqrt{R^{2}-2R X\cos(\omega t)+X^{2}}$$
From the Doppler Effect equation,
$$f_{r}(t)=f_{s}\left(1-\frac{v_{\mathrm{rel}}(t)}{c}\right)$$
Substituting ##v_{rel}##,
$$f_{r}(t)=f_{s}\left(1+\frac{R\omega X\sin(\omega t)}{c\sqrt{R^{2}-2R X\cos(\omega t)+X^{2}}}\right)$$
Since the maximum ##f_r## occurs when ##sin(\omega t)=1##,
$$f_{\mathrm{max}}=f_{s}\left(1+{\frac{R\omega X}{c\sqrt{R^{2}+X^{2}-2R X\cos(\pi)}}}\right)$$
$$f_{\mathrm{max}}=f_{s}\left(1+\frac{R\omega X}{c(X+R)}\right)$$
Since ##\omega = 2\pi/T_s##,
$$f_{\mathrm{max}}=f_{s}\left(1+{\frac{2\pi R X}{c T_{s}(X+R)}}\right)$$
$$T_{s}=\frac{2\pi R X}{c(X+R)\left(\frac{f_{\mathrm{max}}}{f_{s}}-1\right)}$$
This equation is almost right. I do not know where to proceed from here. My go at it might also be completely incorrect. Additionally, here is the equation I used to check the "actual" values of T should be:
$$d\left(t\right)=\sqrt{\left(R^{2}-2RX\cos\left(\omega t\right)+X^{2}\right)}$$
$${\frac{f_{r}}{f_{s}}}={\frac{1-{\frac{v}{c}}\cos\theta}{\sqrt{1-{\frac{v^{2}}{c^{2}}}}}}$$
$$r_{rel}=-v\cos{\theta}=\frac{d}{dt}\left(d\left(t\right)\right)$$
$$\boxed{f_{r}=f_{s}\left(1-\frac{r_{rel}}{c}\right)}$$
With this form of the equation, ##\omega## cannot be separated to only one side of the equation, right? I don't suppose the above equation can be used to rearrange it to get what I want?