Find Point E in Harmonic Range with A, B, C using Cross Ratio -1

In summary: Are you sure that the problem is correctly stated? In any case, to find the coordinates of a fourth point $E$ that would make a harmonic range with the other three points, you can use the method described by Sudharaka. In summary, to find the coordinates of point E, which would form a harmonic range with points A, B, and C, you can use the cross ratio formula and solve for the x, y, and z coordinates. However, the given points are not collinear, so it is unclear if a fourth point E can be found to form a harmonic range.
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A=$\begin{bmatrix}1\\1\\0\end{bmatrix}$, B=$\begin{bmatrix}3\\1\\-1\end{bmatrix}$

C=$\begin{bmatrix}5\\3\\-1\end{bmatrix}$, D=$\begin{bmatrix}4\\0\\-2\end{bmatrix}$

Find the coordinates of a point E such that A,B,C,E forms a harmonic range. This means that the cross ratio is -1.
 
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Poirot said:
A=$\begin{bmatrix}1\\1\\0\end{bmatrix}$, B=$\begin{bmatrix}3\\1\\-1\end{bmatrix}$

C=$\begin{bmatrix}5\\3\\-1\end{bmatrix}$, D=$\begin{bmatrix}4\\0\\-2\end{bmatrix}$

Find the coordinates of a point E such that A,B,C,E forms a harmonic range. This means that the cross ratio is -1.

Hi Poirot, :)

Let, \(E\equiv (x,y,z)\). Write down the cross ratio considering the \(x\), \(y\) and \(z\) coordinates of the points \(A\), \(B\), \(C\) and \(E\). For example,

\[(A,B,C,E)=\frac{AC}{BC}: \frac{AE}{AB}=\frac{1-5}{3-5}:\frac{1-x}{1-3}\]

Since \(A\), \(B\), \(C\) and \(E\) are in harmonic range, \((A,B,C,E)=-1\). Therefore,

\[(A,B,C,E)=\frac{1-5}{3-5}:\frac{1-x}{1-3}=-1\]

Find \(x\). Similarly you can also find \(y\) and \(z\). More information about Cross ratios can be found http://www.ping.be/math/cross.htm#Dividing-ratio.

Kind Regards,
Sudharaka.
 
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Poirot said:
A=$\begin{bmatrix}1\\1\\0\end{bmatrix}$, B=$\begin{bmatrix}3\\1\\-1\end{bmatrix}$

C=$\begin{bmatrix}5\\3\\-1\end{bmatrix}$, D=$\begin{bmatrix}4\\0\\-2\end{bmatrix}$

Find the coordinates of a point E such that A,B,C,E forms a harmonic range. This means that the cross ratio is -1.
There is something puzzling about this question. A harmonic range is normally only defined for four collinear points. If you have three collinear points then you can find a fourth point on the line making up a harmonic range, using the method described by Sudharaka. But in this problem the three given points are not collinear. You can easily see this because the points $A$ and $B$ have the same $y$-coordinate 1, but $C$ has $y$-coordinate 3. If the points were collinear that could not happen.
 

FAQ: Find Point E in Harmonic Range with A, B, C using Cross Ratio -1

What is a Harmonic Range?

A Harmonic Range is a set of points arranged in such a way that the distance between any two consecutive points is inversely proportional to their respective distances from a fixed point. In other words, if A, B, and C are points in a Harmonic Range, then the distance from A to B is equal to the distance from C to the midpoint between A and B.

How do you find the point E in a Harmonic Range with given points A, B, and C?

To find the point E, we need to use the concept of Cross Ratio. The Cross Ratio of four points A, B, C, and D is defined as (AC/AD) divided by (BC/BD). In a Harmonic Range, the Cross Ratio is always equal to -1. Therefore, we can set up the equation (-1) = (AC/AE) divided by (BC/BE) and solve for the unknown point E.

What are the applications of finding points in a Harmonic Range?

Finding points in a Harmonic Range has applications in various fields such as mathematics, physics, and engineering. It is used to solve problems involving distances and ratios in a geometric setting. It is also used in projective geometry, optics, and signal processing.

Can a Harmonic Range have more than three points?

Yes, a Harmonic Range can have any number of points, as long as the distance between any two consecutive points follows the harmonic progression. However, three points are the minimum requirement to define a Harmonic Range.

Is there a formula to find the point E in a Harmonic Range?

Yes, there is a formula to find the point E in a Harmonic Range using the Cross Ratio. The formula is: E = (2ABCD)/(AB+BC+CD). It is derived from the equation (-1) = (AC/AE) divided by (BC/BE) and solving for E. This formula can be applied to any number of points in a Harmonic Range.

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