Find positive integers x,y,z in 1/x+1/y=7/8(x,y∈N)

In summary, the conversations revolved around finding the values of x, y, and z in equations involving fractions. The solutions can be found by considering x <= y <= z and using Egyptian fractions method.
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Albert1
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$(1)$ $\dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}=\dfrac{7}{8}(x,y\in N)$
$find$: $x,y$
$(2)$ $\dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}=\dfrac{6}{12}(x,y\in N)$
$find$: $x,y$
$(3)$ $\dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}+\dfrac {1}{z}=\dfrac{6}{24}(x,y,z\in N)$
$find$: $x,y,z$
 
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  • #2
Albert said:
$(1)$ $\dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}=\dfrac{7}{8}(x,y\in N)$
$find$: $x,y$
$(2)$ $\dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}=\dfrac{6}{12}(x,y\in N)$
$find$: $x,y$
$(3)$ $\dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}+\dfrac {1}{z}=\dfrac{6}{24}(x,y,z\in N)$
$find$: $x,y,z$

without loss of generality we can take x <=y <=z as any permutation can give ans

for (1)

$\frac{7}{8} > \frac{1}{x} >= \frac{7}{16}$ or so x = 2 and it does not give y integer so no solution

for (2)

$\dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}=\dfrac{1}{2}$

or $\dfrac{1}{2} > \dfrac{1}{x} >= \dfrac{1}{4}$ x = 4 or 3 , x=4 gives y =4 and x= 3 gives y = 6 so solution set(4,4), (3,6), (6,3)
 
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kaliprasad said:
without loss of generality we can take x <=y <=z as any permutation can give ans

for (1)

$\frac{7}{8} > \frac{1}{x} >= \frac{7}{16}$ or so x = 2 and it does not give y integer so no solution

for (2)

$\dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}=\dfrac{1}{2}$

or $\dfrac{1}{2} > \dfrac{1}{x} >= \dfrac{1}{4}$ x = 2 or 3 , x=2 gives y =2 and x= 3 gives y = 6 so solution set(2,2), (3,6), (6,3)
set (x,y)=(2,2) is not a solution ,it should be (x,y)=(4,4)
 
  • #4
Albert said:
set (x,y)=(2,2) is not a solution ,it should be (x,y)=(4,4)

you are right I have done correction inline . Thanks
 
  • #5
Albert said:
$(1)$ $\dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}=\dfrac{7}{8}(x,y\in N)$
$find$: $x,y$
$(2)$ $\dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}=\dfrac{6}{12}(x,y\in N)$
$find$: $x,y$
$(3)$ $\dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}+\dfrac {1}{z}=\dfrac{6}{24}(x,y,z\in N)$
$find$: $x,y,z$
hint of (3)$\dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}+\dfrac {1}{z}=\dfrac{6}{24}$
let :$\dfrac{6}{24}=\dfrac {a+b+c}{24}$
we see $a+b+c=6$
and $24$ is a multiple of $a,b,$ and $c\, (a,b,c\in N)$
with this little trick ,this kind of question becomes so easy
 
  • #6
Albert said:
hint of (3)$\dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}+\dfrac {1}{z}=\dfrac{6}{24}$
let :$\dfrac{6}{24}=\dfrac {a+b+c}{24}$
we see $a+b+c=6$
and $24$ is a multiple of $a,b,$ and $c\, (a,b,c\in N)$
with this little trick ,this kind of question becomes so easy

The above hint is not correct because

x= 6, y = 16, z= 48 is solution not provided by above
 
  • #7
Albert said:
hint of (3)$\dfrac{1}{x}+\dfrac{1}{y}+\dfrac {1}{z}=\dfrac{6}{24}$
let :$\dfrac{6}{24}=\dfrac {a+b+c}{24}$
we see $a+b+c=6$
and $24$ is a multiple of $a,b,$ and $c\, (a,b,c\in N)$
with this little trick ,this kind of question becomes so easy
[sp]But that method does not find all the solutions, for example $\dfrac6{24} = \dfrac15 + \dfrac1{21} + \dfrac1{420}$.[/sp]
 
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yes you are right,that is why I express (3) as:
$\dfrac{6}{24} = \dfrac1{x} + \dfrac1{y} + \dfrac1{z}$
if I express (3) as :
$\dfrac{12}{48} = \dfrac1{x} + \dfrac1{y} + \dfrac1{z}$
and using the same method we will get more solutions,up to now I did not see
any theorem mentioning to find the amounts of solutions of this kind ,may be someone can tell me
(if both numerator and denominator are fixed,then the solutions will be fixed,if both
are multiplied by some factor k,then may be we will get more answers)
 
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  • #9
Albert said:
any theorem mentioning to find the amounts of solutions of this kind ,may be someone can tell me
These are known as Egyptian fractions.
 
  • #10
Opalg said:
These are known as Egyptian fractions.
Can we get all the amounts of solutions of this kind ?
Is there any formula to express it ?
 

FAQ: Find positive integers x,y,z in 1/x+1/y=7/8(x,y∈N)

1. What does "N" represent in the equation 1/x+1/y=7/8(x,y∈N)?

"N" represents the set of natural numbers, also known as positive integers (1, 2, 3, ...).

2. How can I find the values of x, y, and z in the equation 1/x+1/y=7/8(x,y∈N)?

To find the values of x, y, and z in this equation, you can use algebraic methods such as substitution or elimination to solve for the unknown variables.

3. Can negative integers be used in this equation?

No, negative integers cannot be used in this equation as the problem specifies that x, y, and z must be positive integers.

4. Is there a unique solution for this equation?

Yes, there is a unique solution for this equation. However, the values of x, y, and z can be interchanged and still satisfy the equation. For example, (x=1, y=7, z=8) and (x=7, y=1, z=8) are both valid solutions.

5. Can this equation be solved using a calculator?

Yes, this equation can be solved using a calculator. However, it is important to note that the calculator might only provide a decimal approximation of the solution, rather than the exact integers required.

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