Find Pythagorean Triples with My Formula

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In summary, the conversation revolves around the discovery of a formula for finding Pythagorean triples and its relation to polynomials. The formula is n+((n-1)/2)^2=((n+1)/2)^2, where n is an odd perfect square. The resulting Pythagorean triple set is (sqrt(n),((n-1)/2),((n+1)/2)). While the formula may not be new, it is still considered interesting and useful by the speakers. One speaker also shares their own formula for finding Pythagorean triples for any value of a, but not all values of a will result in whole numbers. They also mention testing the formula and wanting to prove it works for all Pythagorean triples
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I developed a formula for finding pythagorean triples recently, I thought I'd share it just for general novelty:

n+((n-1)/2)^2=((n+1)/2)^2

Where n= odd perfect square

a^2+b^2=c^2

Pythagorean triple set is (a,b,c)

So pythagorean triple set for my formula is:

(sqrt(n),((n-1)/2),((n+1)/2))

If it's restating something old or obvious, let me know.
 
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Since any polynomial can be written such as [tex]p(x) = a_{n}x^{n} + ... + a_{n+1} [/tex], and since the equality of polynomials theorem holds true, any result obtained with polynomials is just rewritting very simple identities. If n+((n-1)/2)^2=((n+1)/2)^2 holds true, it's because the left and right side simplify to the exact same expression. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you didn't find anything new.
 
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Yes, this is just a trivial consequence of [itex](a+b)(a-b) = a^2 - b^2[/itex].

There's a semi-interesting related observation that you can make (at least it was semi-interesting to me when I considered it briefly in my first year of undergrad!): What integers [itex]n[/itex] can be expressed as a difference of squares in a nontrivial way - ie. not just using [itex](n+1)/2[/itex] and [itex](n-1)/2[/itex]?
 
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Universe_Man said:
I developed a formula for finding pythagorean triples recently, I thought I'd share it just for general novelty:

n+((n-1)/2)^2=((n+1)/2)^2

Where n= odd perfect square

a^2+b^2=c^2

Pythagorean triple set is (a,b,c)

So pythagorean triple set for my formula is:

(sqrt(n),((n-1)/2),((n+1)/2))

If it's restating something old or obvious, let me know.

did you try it out? like n=9 or n=25 or n=49?

n=9 -> 3, 4, 5 that one i knew of

n=25 -> 5,12,13 that one i knew also

the next one i might not be familiar with:

n=49 -> 7,24,25 i guess that works.

n=81 -> 9,40,41 i guess this works, too.

n=121 -> 11,60,61

you might not be the first to discover it, but i hadn't known this before (and I'm in my 6th decade, but i never took a course in Number Theory, which is where i'll bet this would be). so I'm more favorably impressed than the others.
 
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The reason that I say it is trivial is that a = (n+1)/2 and b = (n-1)/2 is precisely the solution to the linear system a-b=1 and a+b=n, for any integer n.

So you're guaranteed to have a^2 - b^2 = (a-b)(a+b) = n. If n is a square that obviously gives you a triple.
 
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Hey, what you found is really similar to what I found.
This is my working:
If n is odd: then n, n^2/2 - 1/2 , n^2/2 + 1/2 is a pythagorean triple.
But if n is even: then n, n^2/4 - 1 , n^2/4 + 1is a pythagorean triple.

So I took it to the next level to be able to say this:
n, n^2/a - a/4 , n^2/a + a/4 is a pythagorean triple for ANY value of a, but not all values of a will give all whole numbers. This only works when 2n > a > 0. I also found that if n is even, than if a is divisible by 4 there is a high chance that it will all be integers. Or if n is odd, then a should be even, but NOT divisible by 4.

What do you think about this?

I went and tested this too. It works for ALL pythagorean triples with the legs smaller than 180000, which kind of gives me a good feeling about it. So I proved it works for a pythagorean triple (it fits into the pythagorean formula), but I want to prove it works for ALL pythagorean triples. Do you have any ideas?

P.S. If this turns out big, I would like to hold rights to it :D
 

FAQ: Find Pythagorean Triples with My Formula

What is a Pythagorean Triple?

A Pythagorean Triple is a set of three positive integers (a, b, c) that satisfy the Pythagorean Theorem, a² + b² = c².

How do you find Pythagorean Triples with your formula?

My formula uses the method of generating Pythagorean Triples known as the Euclid's Formula, which states that for any two positive integers m and n, where m > n, the Pythagorean Triple can be found by a = m² - n², b = 2mn, and c = m² + n².

Why is it important to find Pythagorean Triples?

Pythagorean Triples have numerous real-world applications, such as in geometry, engineering, and physics. They are also used in cryptography and in creating musical scales.

Can your formula find all Pythagorean Triples?

No, my formula can only generate primitive Pythagorean Triples, which are those where a, b, and c have no common factors. However, these can be multiplied by a constant to generate non-primitive triples.

Are there any other methods for finding Pythagorean Triples?

Yes, there are other methods such as the Choudhury-Dickson method and the Fibonacci sequence method. However, Euclid's Formula is the most efficient and widely used method.

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