Find relation equation between a,b

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In summary, the purpose of finding a relation equation between a and b is to determine the mathematical relationship between these two variables. This can help in predicting values and understanding patterns. To find the equation, data points for both variables are needed and mathematical techniques such as regression or correlation analysis can be used. A relation equation is different from a function in that a function follows a specific rule. Yes, a relation equation can be used for predictions, but its accuracy depends on data and equation fit. Limitations of finding a relation equation include the potential for correlation not implying causation and the equation being limited to a certain range of values.
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$y=x^3-ax^2-bx---(1)$
$y=ax+b---(2)$
$a,b\in R$
$x$ is a negative integer, $y$ positive integer
(1) find the relative equation between $a$ and $b$
(2)pair(s) of $(x,y)$
 
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Albert said:
$y=x^3-ax^2-bx---(1)$
$y=ax+b---(2)$
$a,b\in R$
$x$ is a negative integer, $y$ positive integer
(1) find the relative equation between $a$ and $b$
(2)pair(s) of $(x,y)$

we have $y=x^3- ax^2-bx = x^3 - x(ax+b) = x^3-xy$ using (2)
or $y+xy = x^3$
or $y = \frac{x^3}{1+x}$
now $x^3$ and (1+x) are co-primes and 1 + x is not a factor of $x^3$ unless $1+x = \pm 1$
and $1+x=1$ gives x = 0 which is not admissible
so $1+x = -1$ hence $x = -2 $ and $y=8$ so this is the solution as it satisfied x -ve and y + ve
putting in (2) we get
8 = -2a + b or $2a-b = -8$ is the relationship between a and b
 
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we have $y=x^3- ax^2-bx = x^3 - x(ax+b) = x^3-xy$ using (2)
or $y+xy = x^3$
or $y = \frac{x^3}{1+x}$
now $x^3$ and (1+x) are co-primes and 1 + x is not a factor of $x^3$ unless $1+x = \pm 1$
and $1+x=1$ gives x = 0 which is not admissible
so $1+x = -1$ hence $x = -2 $ and $y=8$ so this is the solution as it satisfied x -ve and y + ve
putting in (2) we get
8 = -2a + b or $2a-b = 8$ is the relationship between a and b

How do you know $x^3$ and $1+x$ are co-prime?
 
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Fermat said:
How do you know $x^3$ and $1+x$ are co-prime?

because $x^3+1 = (x+1)(x^2-x + 1)$

so $x^3 = (x+1)(x^2-x+1) + 1$

so $GCD(x^3, x + 1) = GCD(- 1,x +1) =1$ or -1 if you like it and hence co-primes unless $x +1 = \pm 1$
 
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kaliprasad said:
because $x^3+1 = (x+1)(x^2-x + 1)$

so $x^3 = (x+1)(x^2-x+1) + 1$

so $GCD(x^3, x + 1) = GCD(- 1,x +1) =1$ or -1 if you like it and hence co-primes unless $x +1 = \pm 1$

Euclid's algorithm; ok thanks
 

Related to Find relation equation between a,b

1. What is the purpose of finding a relation equation between a and b?

The purpose of finding a relation equation between a and b is to determine the mathematical relationship between these two variables. This can help in predicting the values of one variable based on the values of the other, as well as understanding the overall pattern or trend between the two variables.

2. How do you find the relation equation between a and b?

To find the relation equation between a and b, you need to have a set of data points or observations for both variables. Then, you can use mathematical techniques such as regression analysis or correlation analysis to determine the equation that best fits the data and represents the relationship between a and b.

3. What is the difference between a relation equation and a function?

A relation equation is a statement that shows the relationship between two variables, while a function is a specific type of relation equation where each input (a) has only one output (b). In other words, a function is a special type of relation that follows a specific rule or pattern.

4. Can a relation equation between a and b be used to make predictions?

Yes, a relation equation between a and b can be used to make predictions. By plugging in a value for a, you can use the equation to calculate the corresponding value for b. However, it is important to note that the accuracy of the predictions depends on how well the equation fits the data and the reliability of the data itself.

5. Are there any limitations to finding a relation equation between a and b?

Yes, there are limitations to finding a relation equation between a and b. One limitation is that correlation does not necessarily imply causation, meaning that just because two variables have a relationship does not mean that one causes the other. Additionally, the equation may only be applicable within a certain range of values and may not accurately represent the relationship outside of that range.

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