Find the domain of definition and then the limit

In summary: FOR ALL OF YOUR HELP SO FAR! I GOT IT!In summary, for the first limit, the trick is to use L'Hospital's rule or Taylor's expansion. For the second limit, after simplifying, you get -x/4sinx. For the third limit, you get -x/4sinx.
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mohlam12
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okay i have three limits, i did one and the two others i m stuck...
well here

1.
limit when x tends to zero of
(x-sin(px)) / (x-sin(qx))

p and q are positive integers.

for this one i have no idea what to do, i never worked with p or q...

2.
limit when x tends to zero of the function:
(x(1-cosx)) / (sin3x - 3sinx)
for this one, i expanded the denominator to get [ sinx(3cos²x-sin²x) ], then i finally have
(x(1-cosx)) / (sinx(3cos²x-sin²x))
and the limit is +infinty i think; am i right?

3.

f(x)=(x-1)/(x+1-|x|)
i first need to find the domain of definition, then find the limits in those points.

first, i need to separate that function into :

f(x)= (x-1)/(2x+1) [x<0] (x shouldn't equal 1/2)
f(x)= x+1 [x<o]

so, the limit in -infinity is -infinity
the limit in +infinity is 1/2
the limit in 1/2+ is -infinity
the limit in 1/2- is +infinity

is that right ^^
thanks!
 
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mohlam12 said:
okay i have three limits, i did one and the two others i m stuck...
well here

1.
limit when x tends to zero of
(x-sin(px)) / (x-sin(qx))

p and q are positive integers.

for this one i have no idea what to do, i never worked with p or q...
Uhm... this may be a good candidate for L'Hopital's rule, or Taylor's expansion. Have you covered Taylor's expansion yet? Just expand it arround x = 0, and see if you get the answer.
2.
limit when x tends to zero of the function:
(x(1-cosx)) / (sin3x - 3sinx)
for this one, i expanded the denominator to get [ sinx(3cos²x-sin²x) ], then i finally have
(x(1-cosx)) / (sinx(3cos²x-sin²x))
and the limit is +infinty i think; am i right?
Nope. :)
You should check it again:
sin(3x) = 3 sin(x) - 4 sin3(x), the denominator does not simplify to: sinx(3cos²x-sin²x) :smile:
3.

f(x)=(x-1)/(x+1-|x|)
i first need to find the domain of definition, then find the limits in those points.

first, i need to separate that function into :

f(x)= (x-1)/(2x+1) [x<0] (x shouldn't equal 1/2)
f(x)= x+1 [x<o] you mean x > 0, right? :)

so, the limit in -infinity is -infinity
the limit in +infinity is 1/2

the limit in 1/2+ is -infinity
the limit in 1/2- is +infinity

is that right ^^
thanks!
x can be 1 / 2, the only value that makes f(x) undefined is x = - 1 / 2.
You should check the limits for x tends to -, and + infinity again, you seemed to have swapped the two.
Ok, can you go from here? :)
 
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L'Hospital's would be great for the 1st one, but since this is in Pre-Calc, I would assume you can't use anything with a deriviative yet.

I can't see what would be a good candidate, but maybe the Squeeze Theorem would work here.
 
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As for the first one, do the trick:
[tex]\frac{x-\sin(px)}{x-\sin(qx)}=\frac{x-px\frac{\sin(px)}{px}}{x-qx\frac{\sin(qx)}{qx}}=\frac{1-p\frac{\sin(px)}{px}}{1-q\frac{\sin(qx)}{qx}}[/tex]
 
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okay, for the second one, after simplifying i get -x/4sinx, and the limit of that when x tends to zero is -1/8. is this right?


the third one, (yes I meant x>o)

so, the limit in -infinity is 1/2
the limit in +infinity is 1/2
the limit in (-1/2)+ is -infinity
the limit in (-1/2)- is +infinity
is that right?

the first one,
I'd like to know how you went from [tex]\frac{x-\sin(px)}{x-\sin(qx)} to this \frac{x-px\frac{\sin(px)}{px}}{x-qx\frac{\sin(qx)}{qx}}[/tex]

Thank you very much, I really appreciate your help :)
 
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Well, px/px=1, isn't it?
We can multiply any term we wish with 1, since 1 times a number equals that number..
 
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mohlam12 said:
the limit in +infinity is 1/2
This one is still wrong. :) Re-check it the third time to see why. :rolleyes:
 
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arildno said:
Well, px/px=1, isn't it?
We can multiply any term we wish with 1, since 1 times a number equals that number..

Got it thanks!

This one is still wrong. :) Re-check it the third time to see why.
Oooops! it's plus infinity... I forgot that there was an absolute value! Thank you =]
 
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Okay I have a problem now...

for the second one,

(x(1-cosx)) / (sin3x - 3sinx)

How did you get sin(3x) = 3 sin(x) - 4 sin^3 (x), I didn't get that. and let's suppose it is right... now my function is:

-x/4sinx(1+cosx)

i don't know what do afterwards ? :confused::confused:EDIT: NEVER MIND! THANKS
 
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FAQ: Find the domain of definition and then the limit

What is the domain of definition?

The domain of definition is the set of all possible input values for a given mathematical function. It is the set of values for which the function is defined and can produce a valid output.

How do I find the domain of definition?

To find the domain of definition, you need to identify any potential restrictions on the input values of the function. This can include restrictions such as division by zero, negative values under a square root, or non-real numbers. Once all restrictions have been identified, the remaining values will make up the domain of definition.

Why is it important to find the domain of definition?

The domain of definition is important because it tells us which values we can use as input for a given function. It helps us avoid undefined or invalid outputs and ensures that our calculations are accurate and meaningful.

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