Find the exact length of the curve

In summary, the conversation is about finding the exact length of a curve using a given formula and limits. The formula is simplified using algebra and the final step is to integrate the simplified formula to find the exact length. The person initially struggles with the algebra but eventually realizes their mistake and thanks the expert for their help.
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shamieh
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A little bit confused.

Find the exact length of the curve

\(\displaystyle y = \frac{1}{4}x^2 - \frac{1}{2}\ln x\)

\(\displaystyle 1 \le x \le 2\)

Using the formula: \(\displaystyle y = \sqrt{1 + (\frac{dy}{dx})^2} \, dx\)

I obtained this:

\(\displaystyle \int ^2_1 \sqrt{ \frac{1}{2} + \frac{x^2}{4} + \frac{1}{4x^2}}\)

Now my problem is I'm stuck. If I bring the \(\displaystyle \frac{1}{2}\) out I will have a \(\displaystyle \sqrt{\frac{1}{2}}\) which won't really do me any good. Any suggestions?
 
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Hello, shamieh!

Find the exact length of the curve.

\(\displaystyle y \:=\: \tfrac{1}{4}x^2 - \tfrac{1}{2}\ln x,\;1 \le x \le 2\)

Using the formula: .\(\displaystyle y \:=\: \sqrt{1 + (\tfrac{dy}{dx})^2} \, dx\)

I obtained this: \(\displaystyle \int ^2_1 \sqrt{\tfrac{1}{2} + \tfrac{x^2}{4} + \tfrac{1}{4x^2}}\)

You're doing great!

Note that: .[tex]\tfrac{x^2}{4} + \tfrac{1}{2} + \tfrac{1}{4x^2} \;=\;\tfrac{1}{4}\left(x^2 + 2 + \tfrac{1}{x^2}\right) [/tex]

. . . . . . . [tex]=\;\tfrac{1}{4}\,\left(x + \tfrac{1}{x}\right)^2 [/tex]

Then: .[tex]\sqrt{\tfrac{1}{4}\left(x + \tfrac{1}{x}\right)^2} \;=\;\tfrac{1}{2}\left(x + \tfrac{1}{x}\right) [/tex]And so you have: .[tex]\tfrac{1}{2}\int^2_1\left(x + \tfrac{1}{x}\right)\,dx[/tex]
 
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soroban said:
Hello, shamieh!


Note that: .[tex]\tfrac{x^2}{4} + \tfrac{1}{2} + \tfrac{1}{4x^2} \;=\;\tfrac{1}{4}\left(x^2 + 2 + \tfrac{1}{x^2}\right) [/tex]

. . . . . . . [tex]=\;\tfrac{1}{4}\,\left(x + \tfrac{1}{x}\right)^2 [/tex]

Then: .[tex]\sqrt{\tfrac{1}{4}\left(x + \tfrac{1}{x}\right)^2} \;=\;\tfrac{1}{2}\left(x + \tfrac{1}{x}\right) [/tex]And so you have: .[tex]\tfrac{1}{2}\int^2_1\left(x + \tfrac{1}{x}\right)\,dx[/tex]

Thanks, I see what you're saying but I'm confused on the algebra. Here is what I am getting, maybe you can tell me where I am going wrong.

Ok, here is what I am getting now:

\(\displaystyle \frac{1}{4} (2 + x^2 + \frac{1}{x^2})\)

Oh WOW I'm an idiot. Stared at my paper for 40 minutes trying to figure out how you factored out a 1/4 before I realized that 1/4 * 2/1. Thank you so much for your help Sororban!
 
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Oh I see now.
 
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