Find the greatest and least values of Volume of cylinder

In summary, we discussed the method of Lagrange multipliers for solving constrained minimization/maximization problems. This involves finding the stationary points of the Lagrangian, which is the original function minus the constraint function multiplied by a Lagrange multiplier. This method can also be used for functions with more than two variables and multiple constraint equations.
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Homework Statement
The volume of a cylinder is given by the formula ##V=πr^2h##. Find the greatest and least values of ##V## if ##r+h=6##
Relevant Equations
rate of change- differentiation
$$V=πr^2h$$
$$V=πr^2(6-r)$$
$$\frac {dV}{dr}=12πr-3πr^2$$
For max/min value, $$\frac {dV}{dr}=0$$
$$12πr-3πr^2=0$$
$$3πr(4-r)=0$$
##r=0## or ##r=4##
$$⇒V_{max}= 32π$$
$$⇒V_{min}= 0$$,
I do not think there is another way of doing this...
 
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chwala said:
I do not think there is another way of doing this...
You could find or at least approximate the maximum by inspecting the graph of ##V(r) = \pi r^2(6 - r)##. And clearly V(r) = 0 when r = 0. Although there are values of r for which V(r) < 0, since this is a physical cylinder, we wouldn't consider values of r > 6, since those would make the height negative.
 
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Fun fact, you missed a value of r which either minimizes or maximizes the volume of the cylinder. What else do you have to check besides where the derivative is zero?
 
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chwala said:
I do not think there is another way of doing this...
The method of Lagrange multipliers is how we learned to solve constrained minimization/maximization problems in class.
 
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The goal of the method of Lagrange multipliers is to maximize ##f(x,y)## subject to the constraint ##g(x,y)##. Here ##f## and ##g## are assumed to have continuous first partial derivatives. ##\lambda## is a new variable called the Lagrange multiplier. Our goal is to determine the stationary points of the Lagrangian
$$\mathcal{L} (x,y,\lambda)=f(x,y)-\lambda g(x,y)$$
Let ##f(x,y)=\pi x^2 y## and ##g(x,y)=x+y-6##. The corresponding Lagrangian is
$$\mathcal{L} (x,y,\lambda)=\pi x^2 y-\lambda (x+y-6)$$
Take partial derivatives as you would compute the gradient of any multi variable function and set it equal to ##0## to find the stationary points.
\begin{align}D_x \mathcal{L}=&2\pi xy-\lambda=0\\
D_y \mathcal{L}=&\pi x^2-\lambda=0\\
g(x,y)=& x+y-6=0\end{align}
Then we look for all the solutions to the system of ##3## equations. There are two such solutions as far as I can tell. ##(x,y,\lambda)=(0,6,0)## leads to ##f(0,6)=0## so it is a minimum point. ##(x,y,\lambda)=(4,2,16\pi)## leads to ##f(0,6)=32\pi## so it is a maximum point.

Although this method is tedious, it also works for the case when ##f## is a function of more than two variables and there are more than one constraint equation.
 
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The goal of the method of Lagrange multipliers is to maximize ##f(x,y)## subject to the constraint ##g(x,y)##. Here ##f## and ##g## are assumed to have continuous first partial derivatives. ##\lambda## is a new variable called the Lagrange multiplier. Our goal is to determine the stationary points of the Lagrangian
$$\mathcal{L} (x,y,\lambda)=f(x,y)-\lambda g(x,y)$$
Let ##f(x,y)=\pi x^2 y## and ##g(x,y)=x+y-6##. The corresponding Lagrangian is
$$\mathcal{L} (x,y,\lambda)=\pi x^2 y-\lambda (x+y-6)$$
Take partial derivatives as you would compute the gradient of any multi variable function and set it equal to ##0## to find the stationary points.
\begin{align}D_x \mathcal{L}=&2\pi xy-\lambda=0\\
D_y \mathcal{L}=&\pi x^2-\lambda=0\\
g(x,y)=& x+y-6=0\end{align}
Then we look for all the solutions to the system of ##3## equations. There are two such solutions as far as I can tell. ##(x,y,\lambda)=(0,6,0)## leads to ##f(0,6)=0## so it is a minimum point. ##(x,y,\lambda)=(4,2,16\pi)## leads to ##f(0,6)=32\pi## so it is a maximum point.

Although this method is tedious, it also works for the case when ##f## is a function of more than two variables and there are more than one constraint equation.
Cheers Docnet:cool::cool:...noted.
 
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FAQ: Find the greatest and least values of Volume of cylinder

1. What is the formula for finding the volume of a cylinder?

The formula for finding the volume of a cylinder is V = πr^2h, where r is the radius and h is the height of the cylinder.

2. How do you find the greatest value of volume for a cylinder?

To find the greatest value of volume for a cylinder, you need to know the radius and height of the cylinder. Then, use the formula V = πr^2h to calculate the volume. The greatest value of volume will be when the radius and height are both at their maximum values.

3. How do you find the least value of volume for a cylinder?

To find the least value of volume for a cylinder, you need to know the radius and height of the cylinder. Then, use the formula V = πr^2h to calculate the volume. The least value of volume will be when the radius and height are both at their minimum values.

4. Can the volume of a cylinder be negative?

No, the volume of a cylinder cannot be negative. Volume is a measure of space and cannot have a negative value.

5. What units are used to measure the volume of a cylinder?

The volume of a cylinder is typically measured in cubic units, such as cubic inches, cubic centimeters, or cubic meters.

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