Find the limit of the sum of the areas of all these triangles

In summary, the problem involves calculating the limit of the sum of the areas of a series of triangles, which typically requires the application of calculus concepts such as limits and possibly integration, depending on the specifics of the triangles' dimensions and how they are defined in relation to each other. The focus is on determining how these areas behave as the number of triangles increases or as their dimensions change.
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Homework Statement
Starting from an equilateral triangle of side a, a new triangle is constructed from the three heights of the first triangle, and so on η times ; find the limit of the sum of the areas of all the triangles as η - > oo.
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Firstly im not sure if the new triangle that we make of height 3 times the original height of an equilateral triangle of side a, will be an equilateral triangle as well or not.

I assumed it would be, please let me know if I interpreted the question wrongly.

Continuing this train of thought I did the easy part:

The height of an equilateral triangle of side a would be $$ √(a²-\frac{a²} {4})$$ (from pythogoras theorm)

==> $$\frac{√3a} {2}$$

Height of the new triangle would be
$$3(\frac{√3a} {2})$$
Assuming this to be an equilateral triangle as well we know that the side of this new triangle would be x, therefore applying pythogoras theorem once again we get x as 3a

We see a pattern forming if we multiply the new height of this new triangle with 3 and do the same
The general formula for the height would be
$$\frac{3^r√3 a} {2}$$
The general formula for the base would be $$(3^r a)$$

Where r represents the number of triangles we have used to reach the current triangle.

So if we were to write the general term for the summation of its area it would Be

Summation from r=0 to n ($$\frac{(3)^{2r}√3a²} {2}$$)

Taking the constants out leaves us with summation $$3^{2r}$$ inside which I believe is a geometric series

We get
$$\frac{√3a²} {2} (\frac{1(1-(3²)^n)} {1-3²}$$)
If we tend n to ∞ we get this sum as infinite which is not the Answer.


Im obviously very wrong somewhere. Please consider giving a hint. Thankyou :-)
 
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IMO, the homework statement is very vague. (For instance, how are there 3 heights associated with an equilateral triangle?) Is that the exact wording of the problem statement?
 
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FactChecker said:
IMO, the homework statement is very vague. (For instance, how are there 3 heights associated with an equilateral triangle?) Is that the exact wording of the problem statement?
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FactChecker said:
IMO, the homework statement is very vague. (For instance, how are there 3 heights associated with an equilateral triangle?) Is that the exact wording of the problem statement?
Just realised it most probably means that the heights become the sides of the new triangle...ughhhh
 
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tellmesomething said:
Just realised it most probably means that the heights become the sides of the new triangle...ughhhh
Yes. It took me a little while to come to this conclusion as well. The gist of the problem is to calculate the sum of an infinite series. In fact I believe this is a geometric series, for which formulas are well known.
 
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Mark44 said:
Yes. It took me a little while to come to this conclusion as well. The gist of the problem is to calculate the sum of an infinite series. In fact I believe this is a geometric series, for which formulas are well known.
:-( took you a little while, took me 4 hours..

On that note I had a question on the sum of the infinite converging series..
How is the formula for the said derived? Can we use the normal geometric series summation formula and then tend the variable n to infinity?
Would that give us the same answer as the formula
##\frac{a} {1-r}## ?
 
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tellmesomething said:
IMO, that is vague and incomprehensible. Don't waste your time on it.
 
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tellmesomething said:
Can we use the normal geometric series summation formula and then tend the variable n to infinity?
Yes, if I'm correct in thinking that each successive triangle that is created is the same fraction of the previous triangle. I haven't worked the problem, so my assumption might not be correct.

tellmesomething said:
Would that give us the same answer as the formula ##\frac{a} {1-r}## ?
Yes.

FactChecker said:
Heights above what?
Heights AKA altitudes. The three heights/altitudes of the first triangle are all the same size, but smaller. The idea is to form a new triangle from these three lengths. You don't need to use any coordinates.
Then do the same with the triangle that was formed to get the third triangle. And so on.
 
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FAQ: Find the limit of the sum of the areas of all these triangles

What does it mean to find the limit of the sum of the areas of triangles?

Finding the limit of the sum of the areas of triangles typically involves calculating the area of an infinite number of triangles as their size approaches zero. This concept is often used in calculus, particularly in Riemann sums and integrals, to determine the area under a curve or the total area represented by a series of geometric shapes.

How do you calculate the area of a triangle?

The area of a triangle can be calculated using the formula: Area = 1/2 * base * height. In the context of limits, if the triangles are defined by a function, the base and height may vary depending on the position on the graph, and you would need to express these dimensions in terms of the variables involved.

What is the significance of taking a limit in this context?

Taking a limit allows us to analyze the behavior of the sum of the areas as the number of triangles increases indefinitely and their dimensions decrease. This process helps to approximate the area under a curve or the total area represented by the triangles, leading to a more precise value that can be represented as an integral.

Can you provide an example of finding the limit of the sum of areas of triangles?

Sure! Consider a function f(x) on the interval [a, b]. If we divide this interval into n subintervals and form triangles with bases equal to the width of each subinterval and heights equal to the function's value at a specific point in the subinterval, we can express the sum of the areas of these triangles. As n approaches infinity (and the width of each triangle approaches zero), the limit of the sum represents the area under the curve f(x) from a to b, which can be calculated using the definite integral ∫ from a to b of f(x) dx.

What tools or methods are commonly used to find these limits?

Common methods for finding limits of the sum of areas include Riemann sums, the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, and numerical integration techniques. Tools such as graphing calculators and software like MATLAB or Python can also be employed to visualize and compute these limits effectively.

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