Find the number of line and column where the number 2002 stays.

In summary, Opalg found that 2002 lies in the 63rd group and that it is the greatest number that satisfies $T
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Positive real numbers are arranged in the form:

\(\displaystyle 1 \;\;\; 3 \;\;\; 6 \;\;\;10 \;\;\; \cdots\)
\(\displaystyle 2 \;\;\;5 \;\;\;9 \;\;\; \cdots\)
\(\displaystyle 4 \;\;\;8 \;\;\; \cdots\)
\(\displaystyle 7 \;\;\; \cdots\)

Find the number of the line and column where the number 2002 stays.
 
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anemone said:
Positive real numbers are arranged in the form:

\(\displaystyle 1 \;\;\; 3 \;\;\; 6 \;\;\;10 \;\;\; \cdots\)
\(\displaystyle 2 \;\;\;5 \;\;\;9 \;\;\; \cdots\)
\(\displaystyle 4 \;\;\;8 \;\;\; \cdots\)
\(\displaystyle 7 \;\;\; \cdots\)

Find the number of the line and column where the number 2002 stays.
You will have noticed that the $n$th element in the top row is the $n$th triangular number $\frac12n(n+1)$. Then working back from that, each time you subtract $1$ you move back one column and down one row (until you reach the first column).

The $63$rd triangular number is $2016$, so that will be in row $1$, column $63$. Working back $14$ places from that, you find that $2002$ will be in row $1+14 =15$ and column $63-14=49$.
 
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Thanks for your solution, Opalg! :)

My solution:

NumberRowColumnGroup
1111st
2212nd
3122nd
4313rd
5223rd
6133rd
7414th
8324th
9234th
10144th
11515th
12425th
13335th
14245th
15155th

To see where the number 2002 stays in the table above, we first need to investigate at which group that it lies, and this could be done in the following manner:

\(\displaystyle S_n=\frac{n}{2}\left(n+1\right)\)

\(\displaystyle 2002=\frac{n}{2}\left(n+1\right)\)

\(\displaystyle n=62.78\)

We know that 2002 must lie in the 63th group, and to know what the previous number in the 62th group is, we do the following:

\(\displaystyle S_62=\frac{62}{2}\left(62+1\right)=1953\)

Thus, we have:

NumberRowColumnGroup
195316262th
195463163th
............

To find where the number 2002 lies in the 63th group, i.e. how far it is from 1954, we compute:

\(\displaystyle 2002-1954=48\)

Hence, 2002 lies in the \(\displaystyle 63-48=15th\) row and the \(\displaystyle 1+48=49th\) column.
 
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I tried to find a formula depending only on $k$, namely, given a positive integer $k$, to find its location $(C_k,R_k)$ in the table. For brevity of reference, we say that $k=(C_k,R_k)$ (abuse of notation)

Considering the obvious diagonals, it's clear that '$k$ is in the $n$'th diagonal' is equivalent to '$T_{n-1}<k\leq T_n$(*) for some integer $n\geq1$'.

Notice that for the diagonal $\{(1,n),(2,n-1),...,(1+x,n-x),...(n,1)\}$ we have $(1+x,n-x)=(1,n)-x=T_n-x$, because the numbers are consecutive.
Since $k$ lies on this diagonal, we may set $k=T_n-x$ and obtain $(C_k,R_k)=(1+(T_n-k),n-(T_n-k))$ (I expect the ambiguity of the notaion to be confusing, but I hope I'm wrong)

Now we want to "eliminate" $n$. For this, we go back to one of(*): $T_{n-1}<k\Leftrightarrow T_{n-1}+1\leq k\Leftrightarrow n^2-n+2\leq 2k\Leftrightarrow (n-1/2)^2+7/4\leq2k\Leftrightarrow n\leq\frac{(8k-7)^{1/2}+1}{2}$

From (*), it clear that $n$ is the greatest integer that satisfies $T_{n-1}<k$, and therefore the greatest to satisfy $n\leq\frac{(8k-7)^{1/2}+1}{2}$; so by definition $n=\lfloor\frac{(8k-7)^{1/2}+1}{2}\rfloor$.

At last, the answer: The location of $k$ is $(T_n-k+1,n+k-T_n)$, where $n=\lfloor\frac{(8k-7)^{1/2}+1}{2}\rfloor$.

Example: Take $k=2002$, then $n=63$ and hence $2002$ lies in $(T_{63}-2002+1,63+2002-T_{63})=(15,49)$.(Whew)

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Based on the given arrangement, it appears that the numbers are being arranged in a triangular pattern. In order to find the number of the line and column where the number 2002 stays, we can use a formula for triangular numbers.

The formula for the nth triangular number is given by: Tn = (n^2 + n) / 2

In this case, we are looking for the number 2002 which is the 2002nd triangular number. So, we can set up the equation as follows:

2002 = (n^2 + n) / 2

Solving for n, we get n = 62.09. This means that the number 2002 is the 62nd triangular number.

Now, we can use this information to find the line and column where 2002 stays. In order to do this, we need to count the number of rows and columns in the triangular pattern. The first row has 1 number, the second row has 2 numbers, the third row has 3 numbers, and so on. This means that the 62nd triangular number will be in the 8th row.

Next, we need to determine the column. In the 8th row, the first number is 57 and the last number is 64. This means that the number 2002 will be in the 8th column.

Therefore, the number 2002 stays on the 8th line and 8th column.
 

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