Find the Radius of 4th Circle When All are Tangent: Hint d/2

In summary, to find the radius of the fourth circle when its center is at a given distance d from the line on which the centers of the other three circles lie, use Descartes' theorem to calculate the curvature of the fourth circle, which can then be used to find its radius in terms of the radii of the other three circles. The distance d can be incorporated by using the fact that the area of the triangle formed by the centers of the three circles is equal to half of d multiplied by the sum of the radii of the other two circles. This ultimately leads to the solution of r4 = d/2.
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The centers of three circles are situated on a line. The center of the fourth circle is situated at given distance d from that line. What is the radius of the fourth circle if we know that each circle is tangent to other three. Please give me a hint, if you can. Answer: \(\displaystyle d/2.\)
 

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It is not clear what is d from the picture .
 
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ZaidAlyafey said:
It is not clear what is d from the picture .

Andrei said:
The center of the fourth circle is situated at given distance d from that line.

I am also interested in the solution.

Andrei said:
The center of the fourth circle is situated at given distance d from that line.

I am also interested in the solution.

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I also don't know where to start with this one.

But I really wonder why this works for all proportions in which the centre of the biggest circle is divided into.

It looks like d/2 is the radius of the 4th circle for all proportions (by my visualisation).

But to start working on it,I think I have to get to paper and pencil.

At first I would be looking for the case in which the centre of the big circle is divided into two equal parts as I assume it is easier to understand.
 
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Andrei said:
The centers of three circles are situated on a line. The center of the fourth circle is situated at given distance d from that line. What is the radius of the fourth circle if we know that each circle is tangent to other three. Please give me a hint, if you can. Answer: \(\displaystyle d/2.\)
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Write $r_1,\ r_2,\ r_3,\ r_4$ for the radii of the circles centred at $O_1,\ O_2,\ O_3,\ O_4$ respectively. Notice that $r_1 = r_2+r_3$. To calculate $r_4$ in terms of $r_2$ and $r_3$, use Descartes' theorem. For that, you need to use the curvatures $k_i = \pm1/r_i$ $(i=1,2,3,4)$. The first of these, $k_1$, will be negative (because the large circle touches the other three internally). Descartes' theorem says that $k_4 = k_1+k_2+k_3 \pm\sqrt{k_1k_2 + k_2k_3 + k_3k_1}$. When you substitute $k_1 = -1/(r_2+r_3)$, $k_i = 1/r_i$ for $i=2,3,4$, you find that the part inside the square root sign is zero (this corresponds to the fact that the centres $O_1,\ O_2,\ O_3$ are collinear). That gives you a formula for $r_4$ in terms of $r_2$ and $r_3$.

Now you have to bring in the distance $d$. I think the neatest way to do that is to use the fact that the area of triangle $O_2O_3O_4$ is $\frac12d(r_2+r_3)$. It is also given by Heron's formula in terms of $r_2,\ r_3,\ r_4$. Compare the two results and you will find that $r_4 = \frac12d$.
 
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The radius of the fourth circle can be found by using the Pythagorean theorem and the given information. Since the centers of the three circles are on a line, we can draw a right triangle with one leg being the distance d and the other leg being the radius of the fourth circle. The hypotenuse of this triangle would be the sum of the radii of the three circles. Using the Pythagorean theorem, we can set up the equation (d/2)^2 + (r)^2 = (r + r + r)^2, where r is the radius of the fourth circle. Simplifying this equation, we get r = d/2. Therefore, the radius of the fourth circle is d/2.
 

FAQ: Find the Radius of 4th Circle When All are Tangent: Hint d/2

What is the problem?

The problem is to find the radius of the 4th circle when all circles are tangent to each other, given the hint "d/2".

What does "d/2" refer to in the problem?

"d/2" refers to half the distance between the centers of any two tangent circles in the set of four circles.

Is there a formula to solve this problem?

Yes, there is a formula to solve this problem. The radius of the 4th circle can be expressed as the square root of the sum of the squares of the radius of the other three circles, minus twice the product of the radius of the first and second circles, divided by the difference between the radius of the first and second circles.

Can this problem be solved without using the formula?

Yes, this problem can also be solved using geometrical constructions and properties of tangent circles. One method is to draw a line from the center of the 4th circle to the point of tangency with the first and second circles, and then use the Pythagorean theorem to find the length of this line, which is equal to the radius of the 4th circle.

Are there any real-world applications for this problem?

Yes, this problem has real-world applications in various fields such as physics, optics, and engineering. For example, it can be used to calculate the minimum distance between objects or to determine the optimal positioning of objects for maximum efficiency.

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