Find the value of the definite integral

In summary: However, as long as the limits are known, the formulas for the elliptic integrals are quite simple.In summary, the author is thinking about integration and is going slow because he has other things to do. He is thinking about integration and is considering the following:-The equation for the sqrt function-The substitution u = t + 1 for the general case-The three cases for when t is between 0 and 2-The elliptic integral for u = sinh x
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Homework Statement
$$\int_0^2 \sqrt{(8t^2+16t+16)} dt$$
Relevant Equations
Integration
Looking at integration today...i will go slow as i also try finish other errands anyway; i am thinking along these lines;

$$\int \sqrt{(ax^2+bx+c)} dx=\sqrt{a}\int \sqrt{\left[x+\frac{b}{2a}\right]^2+\left[\frac{4ac-b^2}{4a^2}\right]} dx$$

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Therefore,

$$\int_0^2 \sqrt{(8t^2+16t+16)} dt=\sqrt8\int_0^2[\sqrt{[(t+1)^2+1^2} ]dt$$

Let ##u=t+1## then ##du=dt##

$$\sqrt8\int_0^2[\sqrt{u^2+1} ]du$$
 
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Completing the square is the right idea, but don't treat the general case. The substitution depends on what is left after making a linear change of variable and extracting a positive common factor. That leaves three cases to consider: [tex]
\begin{split}
\int \sqrt{X^2 + C^2}\,dX & \Rightarrow X = Cf_1(u) \\
\int \sqrt{X^2 - C^2}\,dX & \Rightarrow X = Cf_2(u) \\
\int \sqrt{C^2 - X^2}\,dX & \Rightarrow X = Cf_3(u)
\end{split}[/tex]
 
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chwala said:
$$\int_0^2 \sqrt{(8t^2+16t+16)} dt=\sqrt8\int_0^2[\sqrt{[(t+1)^2+1^2} ]dt$$
chwala said:
Let ##u=t+1## then ##du=dt##
$$\sqrt8\int_0^2[\sqrt{u^2+1} ]du$$
This integral is ripe for a trig substitution.
 
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:smile::cool::cool: aaaaaaahahaha...seen it @Mark44

Thanks to our physics forum in particular;... recent study of hyperbolic functions... I'll post my working later...we shall integrate ##\sinh^2x ##wrt ##x## ...arrive at solution ##12.64##...
 
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Homework Statement: $$\int_0^2 \sqrt{(8t^2+16t+16)} dt$$
Relevant Equations: Integration

Looking at integration today...i will go slow as i also try finish other errands anyway; i am thinking along these lines;

$$\int \sqrt{(ax^2+bx+c)} dx=\sqrt{a}\int \sqrt{\left[x+\frac{b}{2a}\right]^2+\left[\frac{4ac-b^2}{4a^2}\right]} dx$$

...
Therefore,

$$\int_0^2 \sqrt{(8t^2+16t+16)} dt=\sqrt8\int_0^2[\sqrt{[(t+1)^2+1^2} ]dt$$

Let ##u=t+1## then ##du=dt##

$$\sqrt8\int_0^2[\sqrt{u^2+1} ]du$$

If [itex]t[/itex] is between 0 and 2, then [itex]u = 1 + t [/itex] is between 1 and 3.
 
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Therefore,

$$\int_0^2 \sqrt{(8t^2+16t+16)} dt=\sqrt8\int_0^2[\sqrt{[(t+1)^2+1^2} ]dt$$

Let ##u=t+1## then ##du=dt##

$$\sqrt8\int_1^3[\sqrt{u^2+1} ]du$$

Let ##u=\sinh x ⇒du=\cosh x dx ##

$$\sqrt8\int_1^3[\sqrt{u^2+1} ]du=\sqrt8\int_{0.881}^{1.8184}\sqrt{\cosh^2 x} ⋅\cosh x dx=\sqrt8\int_{0.881}^{1.8184}\cosh^2 x dx$$

$$=\sqrt8\left[\frac{1}{2}\left[x+\frac{1}{2} \sinh (2x)\right]\right]_{0.881}^{1.8184}=\sqrt8\left[5.652-1.147\right]=\sqrt8×4.505=12.742$$

Bingo!!:cool: :biggrin::bow:
 
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Bringing me to my next question, How do we handle cubic or quartic integration under square roots or even cube roots?...should i come up with a question on a new thread?
 
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Note that if [itex]u = \sinh x[/itex] then [tex]x = \ln\left(u + \sqrt{1 + u^2}\right)[/tex] and [tex]
\sinh 2x = 2\sinh x \cosh x = 2u\sqrt{1 + u^2}.[/tex] This leads to the exact result [tex]
\sqrt{2} \ln\left(-3 + 3\sqrt{2} + 2\sqrt{5} - \sqrt{10} \right) + 6\sqrt{5} - 2.[/tex]
 
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chwala said:
Bringing me to my next question, How do we handle cubic or quartic integration under square roots or even cube roots?...should i come up with a question on a new thread?
These are the elliptic integrals. Their value could only be determined numerically for definite integrals (i.e. with limits).
 
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Related to Find the value of the definite integral

1. What is a definite integral?

A definite integral is a mathematical expression that calculates the area under a curve within a specific interval. It is represented as ∫[a, b] f(x) dx, where "a" and "b" are the limits of integration, and "f(x)" is the function being integrated.

2. How do you find the value of a definite integral?

To find the value of a definite integral, you need to evaluate the antiderivative (or indefinite integral) of the function and then apply the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus. This involves finding F(b) - F(a), where F(x) is the antiderivative of f(x).

3. What is the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus?

The Fundamental Theorem of Calculus connects differentiation and integration. It states that if F is the antiderivative of f on an interval [a, b], then the definite integral of f from a to b is F(b) - F(a). This theorem allows us to evaluate definite integrals using antiderivatives.

4. What methods can be used to evaluate definite integrals?

Several methods can be used to evaluate definite integrals, including:1. Analytical methods using antiderivatives.2. Numerical methods like the Trapezoidal Rule or Simpson's Rule.3. Special techniques for specific types of functions, such as trigonometric integrals, integration by parts, or partial fraction decomposition.

5. What are common mistakes to avoid when evaluating definite integrals?

Common mistakes include:1. Incorrectly finding the antiderivative of the function.2. Forgetting to apply the limits of integration correctly.3. Misinterpreting the limits or the function's behavior within the interval.4. Ignoring the need for absolute values when dealing with integrals of functions that change sign within the interval.

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