Find two 2x2 matrices that multiply to give 0

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In summary, the conversation discusses two ways of multiplying matrices, one by assuming specific values for the elements and the other using trial and error. The concept of rank and its importance in matrix multiplication is also mentioned. The conversation ends with a suggestion to experiment with simple matrices to better understand the relationship between the matrices and their resulting product.
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Find two ##2x2## matrices ##A## and ##B## such that ##AB = 0## but ##BA\neq0##
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AB=0
One way would be to assume
$$A= \begin{bmatrix}a_1 & a_2\\a_3 & a_4 \end{bmatrix}$$ and $$B=\begin{bmatrix}b_1 & b_2\\b_3 & b_4\end{bmatrix}$$ and then multiply but then you end up with 4 equations and 8 variables, how would that work?

the other way would be to use trial and error, any help would be appreciated.
 
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I would think of it in terms of images and kernels.

To start, what do the rank of A and B need to be?
 
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Office_Shredder said:
I would think of it in terms of images and kernels.

To start, what do the rank of A and B need to be?
I am unfamiliar with terms like images and kernels.

both A and B are 2x2 matrices
 
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Do you know what the rank of a matrix is?
 
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Office_Shredder said:
Do you know what the rank of a matrix is?
I thought its 2x2 its given in the question
 
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do you know that AB = 0 means the rows of A are perpendicular to the columns of B?
 
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you end up with 4 equations and 8 variables, how would that work?
That just means that there are a lot of solutions because you have a lot of freedom to pick variable value combinations that work.
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the other way would be to use trial and error, any help would be appreciated.
Experiment with simple matrices with only 0s and 1s as elements. Find how to make a matrix that will zero a row. Find out how to make a matrix that will move a row. Suppose ##B## zeros a row and ##A## moves that row. What happens if ##B## zeros the row before ##A## moves it versus ##A## moving the row before ##B## zeros it? You can use that to get the two cases ##AB = 0## and ##BA \ne 0##.
 
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Just in case, related to what Mathwonk said, look up the Fundamental Theorem of Linear Algebra.
 

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What does it mean for two 2x2 matrices to multiply to give 0?

When two 2x2 matrices multiply to give 0, it means that the product of these matrices is the zero matrix. The zero matrix is a matrix where all the elements are zero. This situation can occur even if neither of the original matrices is the zero matrix.

Can you provide an example of two 2x2 matrices that multiply to give 0?

Yes, consider the matrices A = [[1, 2], [3, 6]] and B = [[-2, 1], [1, -0.5]]. When you multiply A and B, the result is the zero matrix.

How do you verify that two 2x2 matrices multiply to give 0?

To verify that two 2x2 matrices multiply to give 0, you perform matrix multiplication and check if the resulting matrix is the zero matrix. For matrices A = [[a, b], [c, d]] and B = [[e, f], [g, h]], compute the product AB and ensure all elements of the resulting matrix are zero.

Is it always possible to find two 2x2 matrices that multiply to give 0?

Yes, it is always possible to find two 2x2 matrices that multiply to give 0. This is because the space of 2x2 matrices is large enough to contain pairs of non-zero matrices that can produce a zero matrix when multiplied.

What is the significance of finding two 2x2 matrices that multiply to give 0?

Finding two 2x2 matrices that multiply to give 0 is significant in linear algebra and matrix theory. It demonstrates the concept of non-trivial null spaces and helps in understanding the properties of linear transformations and eigenvalues.

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