Find zeros of polynomial and factor it out, find the reals and complex numbers

In summary, the function f(x) = 3x^2+2x+10 is a quadratic with no real roots, leading to complex solutions when using the quadratic formula. This is due to the presence of the imaginary unit i in the solution, resulting from the use of the square root of a negative number. The vertex form of the function also demonstrates that f(x) is always greater than zero, indicating the lack of real roots.
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datafiend
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Hi all,
\(\displaystyle f(x) = 3x^2+2x+10\)

I recognized that this a quadratic and used the quadratic formula. I came up with \(\displaystyle -1/3+-\sqrt{29}/3\).

But the answer has a \(\displaystyle i\) for imaginary. When I was under the \sqrt{116}, I broke that down, but didn't realize there would be an \(\displaystyle i\)

Can someone explain that one to me?

Thanks
 
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datafiend said:
Hi all,
\(\displaystyle f(x) = 3x^2+2x+10\)

I recognized that this a quadratic and used the quadratic formula. I came up with \(\displaystyle -1/3+-\sqrt{29}/3\).

But the answer has a \(\displaystyle i\) for imaginary. When I was under the \sqrt{116}, I broke that down, but didn't realize there would be an \(\displaystyle i\)

Can someone explain that one to me?

Thanks

Hi!

$$\Delta=b^2-4ac=2^2-4 \cdot 3 \cdot 10=4-120=-116=116i^2$$

$$x_{1,2}=\frac{-b \pm \sqrt{\Delta}}{2a}=\frac{-2 \pm \sqrt{116i^2}}{6}=\frac{-2 \pm 2 i \sqrt{29}}{6}=\frac{-1 \pm i \sqrt{29}}{3}$$

So, $x_1=\frac{-1+ i \sqrt{29}}{3}$ and $x_2=\frac{-1- i \sqrt{29}}{3}$.
 
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$i$ is just a name for $\sqrt{-1}$, the imaginary unit.

The quadratic is $3x^2 + 2x + 10 = 0$. Multiply both sides by $4\cdot 3 = 12$ to get

$$4 \cdot 3^2 x^2 + 4 \cdot 3 \cdot 2x + 120 = (2 \cdot 3 \cdot x)^2 + 2 \cdot (2 \cdot 3) \cdot (2) x + (2)^2 + \left ( -4 + 120 \right)$$

By completing the square, one gets

$$(2 \cdot 3 x + 2)^2 + 116 = 0$$

And solving for $x$ results

$$x = \frac{-2 \pm \color{red}{\sqrt{-116}}}{6}$$

But we know that $\sqrt{ab} = \sqrt{a}\sqrt{b}$, thus $\sqrt{-116} = \sqrt{-1}\cdot \sqrt{166} = \sqrt{-1} \cdot 2 \cdot \sqrt{29} = \boxed{i2\sqrt{29}}$ which is the desired numerator.
 
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If we complete the square to write the function in vertex form as follows, we find:

\(\displaystyle f(x) = 3x^2+2x+10=3\left(x^2+\frac{2}{3}x+\frac{1}{9}\right)+10-3\cdot\frac{1}{9}=3\left(x-\left(-\frac{1}{3}\right)\right)^2+\frac{29}{3}\)

We can then see that:

\(\displaystyle f_{\min}=f\left(-\frac{1}{3}\right)=\frac{29}{3}>0\)

So, we see that for any real value of $x$, the given function is greater than zero, and thus has no real roots. Thus, we should expect the roots to be complex.
 
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for sharing your findings with us. It seems like you have correctly found the zeros of the polynomial using the quadratic formula. The presence of the imaginary number, i, in the solution is due to the fact that the discriminant (the part under the square root sign) is negative. This indicates that the solutions are complex numbers.

In order to find the real and complex numbers, we can rewrite the polynomial as a product of two factors: f(x) = (3x+5)(x+2). This tells us that the zeros of the polynomial are x = -5/3 and x = -2. These are the real numbers. However, when we plug these values back into the original polynomial, we get a complex result. This is because the complex numbers are needed to complete the square and factor out the polynomial.

In summary, the complex numbers in the solution indicate that the polynomial has complex roots, but we can still find the real numbers by factoring it out. I hope this explanation helps. Keep up the good work!
 

FAQ: Find zeros of polynomial and factor it out, find the reals and complex numbers

What is the process for finding the zeros of a polynomial?

The process for finding the zeros of a polynomial involves setting the polynomial equal to zero and solving for the variable. This can be done by factoring the polynomial, using the quadratic formula, or using other algebraic methods.

How do you factor out a polynomial?

To factor a polynomial, you need to find the common factors of each term and then use the distributive property to pull out those common factors. This will leave you with a simplified polynomial that can be further factored, if necessary.

What are the real numbers and complex numbers?

The real numbers are the set of all rational and irrational numbers, including positive and negative integers, fractions, and decimals. The complex numbers are a combination of a real number and an imaginary number, expressed in the form a + bi, where a and b are real numbers and i is the imaginary unit.

How do you find the real and complex zeros of a polynomial?

To find the real zeros of a polynomial, you can use the Rational Zero Theorem or the Descartes' Rule of Signs to determine potential values for the variable. Then, you can use synthetic division or long division to test these values and find the real zeros. To find the complex zeros, you can use the quadratic formula or the completing the square method.

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Finding the zeros and factoring a polynomial allows us to understand the behavior and characteristics of the polynomial, such as its roots, end behavior, and degree. This information can be useful in solving equations, graphing the polynomial, and solving real-world problems.

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