Finding a field line of a vector field

In summary, the field line of a point through a point (a, b, c) is found using spherical coordinates and the scale factor is r.
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S. Moger
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Homework Statement



Find the field line of

[tex] \vec{E}(\vec{r}) = \frac{m}{4 \pi r^3} (2 \cos\theta, \sin\theta, 0)[/tex]

through the point (a, b, c)

(Spherical coordinates).

m is a constantI know the answer, but I don't see what I do wrong.

The Attempt at a Solution



[tex] \frac{d\vec{r}}{d \tau} = C \cdot \vec{E}(\vec{r}(\tau)) [/tex]

[tex] \frac{dr}{d \tau} = C \cdot \frac{m}{4 \pi r^3} 2 \cos\theta[/tex]
[tex] \frac{d\theta}{d \tau} = C \cdot \frac{m}{4 \pi r^3} \sin\theta[/tex]
[tex] \frac{d\phi}{d \tau} = 0[/tex]

By setting [itex] C = \frac{4 \pi}{m}[/itex] I get

[tex] \frac{dr}{d \tau} = \frac{ 2 \cos\theta}{r^3}[/tex]
[tex] \frac{d\theta}{d \tau} = \frac{\sin\theta}{r^3} [/tex]
[tex] \frac{d\phi}{d \tau} = 0[/tex]

To get rid of [itex]r^3[/itex] I divide [itex]\frac{d\theta}{d \tau}[/itex] by [itex]\frac{dr}{d \tau}[/itex] (must not be zero and so on) and get

[tex]2 \tan^{-1}\theta \frac{d\theta}{d \tau} = \frac{dr}{d \tau} [/tex]

Then I multiply both sides with [itex]d\tau[/itex] (which is a somewhat mysterious operation to me).

After integration I obtain [itex]2 \log (\sin\theta) = r + const[/itex]. I could of course determine the const and so on, but this isn't the answer anyway.

Where's the error and why?

Scale factors? But if so, why?
 
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##\text{tan}^{-1} \theta## is the inverse tan function. That is, it is the angle that has tan equal to ##\theta##.

I think you want ##\text{tan} \theta \frac{dr}{d\tau} = 2 \frac{d\theta}{d\tau}## meaning ##\frac{dr}{d\theta} = \frac{1}{2} \text{tan} \theta##
 
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EDIT: See my post below.
 
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After staring at this for a bit, I think the whole problem statement is wrong. Could you please provide the original problem statement as it was given with no modifications?

I say this because you should have started with something like ##\vec E(x, y, z, t) = E_x \space \hat i + E_y \space \hat j + E_z \space \hat k##.

I'm guessing this would reduce to ##\vec E = E_x \space \hat i + E_y \space \hat j## due to the zero component.

Then you would simply solve ##\frac{dy}{dx} = \frac{E_y}{E_x}##.
 
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Ok, the notation might not be the best, [itex]\tan^{-1} \theta [/itex] above is meant to be [itex]1 / \tan\theta[/itex]The problem statement is unmodified, with the exception of the coordinates of interest that I generalized. It's given in spherical coordinates (or practically in polar as you said)

I get the right answer if I use the scale factor $$r$$ (used in your expression):

$$\frac{dr}{d \theta} = r \frac{E_r}{E_{\theta}}$$

So I think I made my error here

$$\frac{d\vec{r}}{d \tau} = C \cdot \vec{E}(\vec{r}(\tau))$$

which seems to hold for cartesian coordinates only.

To generalize I seem to require something like this, but I can't convince myself of it.

$$\frac{d\vec{r}}{d \tau} = C \cdot \frac{1}{h_i} \vec{E}(\vec{r}(\tau))$$

With
$$h_{\theta} = | \frac{ \partial{\vec{r}} }{ \partial{\theta} }| = r$$
 
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Or is the field expressed in spherical coordinates?
 
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Yes my bad if it's unclear, everything is in spherical coordinates.

theta would be the angle measured from the z axis

Ok, in a general case a change in cartesian coordinates can be described like this with other (normalized, orthogonal) base vectors [itex]\vec{e_i}[/itex]

$$ d\vec{r} = \sum_{i=1}^{3} h_i \vec{e_i} du_i $$

So I guess

$$\frac{d\vec{u}}{d \tau} = C \cdot \frac{1}{h_i} \vec{E}(\vec{u}(\tau))$$

could make sense.
 
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