Finding a Second Solution to ODE xy''+y'+xy=0 with Integral Method

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In summary, the conversation discusses finding a second solution for the ODE xy''+y'+xy=0, with the first solution given as y=\int_0^{\pi} e^{ix\cos{t}}dt. The conversation explores different methods and ultimately suggests using the reduction of order technique to find the second solution in the form of an integral. The potential concern of dividing by an integral is addressed and deemed acceptable.
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We're given the ODE xy''+y'+xy=0 and told that [tex]y=\int_0^{\pi} e^{ix\cos{t}}dt[/tex] is one solution and it asks to find a second solution in the form of an integral for x>0. I'm not sure how to do this, I don't think they mean the second solution derived from the Wronskian as that just wouldn't "look right" with an integral for the first solution? Also I've tried substituting in [tex]y=\int_{\gamma} f(t)e^{xt}dt[/tex] but I just get back to the solution they've already given us. Do you think you have to somehow just "spot" a second solution? Thanks.
 
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But that implies the second solution is:

[tex]y_2(x)=y_1(x)\int^x \frac{1}{uy_1(u)^2}du[/tex] where [tex]y_1(x)=\int_0^{\pi} e^{ix\cos{t}}dt[/tex]. Is that okay? I've been a bit suspect when we have expressions where we're dividing by integrals.
 
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It's fine. The integral is just some function.
 
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Gib Z said:
It's fine. The integral is just some function.

Ok, thanks.
 

FAQ: Finding a Second Solution to ODE xy''+y'+xy=0 with Integral Method

What is a second solution to ODE?

A second solution to ODE (ordinary differential equation) is the second independent function that satisfies the differential equation, in addition to the first solution. This is important because a higher order ODE requires two independent solutions in order to fully solve the equation.

How do you find a second solution to ODE?

There are several methods for finding a second solution to ODE. One method is using the Principle of Superposition, where you add together two linearly independent solutions to get a new solution. Another method is using the Reduction of Order technique, where you assume a second solution in the form of the first solution times a new function, and then solving for the new function.

Can a second solution to ODE be a constant?

No, a second solution to ODE cannot be a constant because it would not satisfy the differential equation. The constant would be eliminated when taking the derivative, leaving an equation that does not match the original ODE.

Why is finding a second solution important?

Finding a second solution to ODE is important because it allows us to fully solve the differential equation and get a general solution. This is especially important for higher order ODEs, as they require two independent solutions to fully solve the equation and find all possible solutions.

Can a second solution to ODE be non-unique?

Yes, a second solution to ODE can be non-unique. This means that there can be multiple different second solutions that satisfy the differential equation. However, as long as these solutions are independent from the first solution, they can all be added together to form a general solution to the ODE.

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