Finding All Possible $k$ for $b,k\in N$

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In summary, "Finding All Possible $k$ for $b,k\in N$" involves determining all the possible values of $k$ that satisfy the conditions that $k$ and $b$ are both natural numbers. It is important because it provides a comprehensive understanding of the range of values that can fulfill the given conditions. Common techniques used include listing out combinations, using algebra and computer programs. Restrictions include both $b$ and $k$ being natural numbers. This concept has potential applications in cryptography, number theory, combinatorics, and solving mathematical problems and analyzing data.
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$b,k\in N$ and $\sqrt {b^2(k-3)(k+1)-4k}$ also $\in N$
find all possible $k$
 
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Albert said:
$b,k\in N$ and $\sqrt {b^2(k-3)(k+1)-4k}$ also $\in N$
find all possible $k$

putting k-2 = a for getting simpler expression we have

$b^2(k-3)(k+1)-4k$
=$b^2(a-2)(a+2)-4(a+1)$
= $b^2(a^2-4)-4(a+1)$
= $a^2b^2 - 4a -4(b^2+1)$
to solve for a
for it to to be perfect square discriminant has to be zero
but 16 + 16b(b^2+1) >0 so no solution
edit: solution is wrong as pointed below
 
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kaliprasad said:
putting k-2 = a for getting simpler expression we have

$b^2(k-3)(k+1)-4k$
=$b^2(a-2)(a+2)-4(a+1)$
= $b^2(a^2-4)-4(a+1)$
= $a^2b^2 - 4a -4(b^2+1)$
to solve for a
for it to to be perfect square discriminant has to be zero
but 16 + 16b(b^2+1) >0 so no solution

b = 1, k = 7.
 
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greg1313 said:
b = 1, k = 7.
k=4,7
solution k=4 is missed
(b=4)
 
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