Finding charge so that the electric field is zero

In summary: But you did some of that work in the wrong way. That happens to me, too! BTW, I did not check my answers. I did check my algebra and trig. I also got q² = Z* kq/(2d²)In summary, the problem involves finding the location of a third charge with the same charge as two other charges placed at the corners of a square, in order to create a zero electric field at one of the corners. By using Coulomb's Law and the equation for electric field, the equation for the electric field at the corner A is found. Using the diagonal distance and the horizontal and vertical components of the electric field, the equations for Ex and Ey due to the
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Homework Statement



Two tiny objects with equal charges of 65.0 µC are placed at two corners of a square with sides of 0.335 m, as shown. How far above and to the left of the corner of the square labeled A would you place a third small object with the same charge so that the electric field is zero at A?
above corner A= ?m
to the left of corner A= ?m

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Homework Equations



Coulomb's Law: F = (k * q1 * q2 ) / r^2
Electric Field: = k*q / r^2

The Attempt at a Solution


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Force from just below A.

d = 0.335 m
k = 9*10^9
q1 = 65 *10^-6 C

E = kq1/d^2
E = 9*10^9*65*10^-6/(0.335)^2
E =5212752.26 N/q

Force from charge on the same diagronal as A
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d = sqrt(0.335^2 + 0.335^2) A diagronal of a square = sqrt(side^2 + side^2)
d = 0.4737 m

E2 = k*q1/d
E2 = 9*10^9 * 65 * 10^-6/(0.4737)^2
E2 = 2607048.416 N/q

Summing the Fields.
Vertical
Total Vertical = 5212752.26 + 2607048.416 *Sin(45o)
the angle a diagonal makes with with vertical is 45o
Total Vertical = 5212752.26 N/q + 1843461.614 N/q
Total Vertical = 7056213.874 N/q

Total Horizontal = 2607048.416 * cos(45o)
Total Horizontal = 1843461.614 N/q

I used the following equation for the rest, but I am not getting the right answer, please if anyone can help me, this is due in an hour. Thank you so much I've been trying this for hours

d^2 = kq1/E
 
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Welcome to PF, trip!
Just some tips - you will want to do this yourself. No need to work with the numbers for the charge or the distance until the very end. In fact, the charges all cancel out in the calcs.

Call the .335 m by the letter d. The diagonal distance is the square root of 2d².
Then the horizontal component of E at A due to the charge q on the right is
Ex = kq/(2d²). The vertical Ey is a very similar expression, just 3/2 times Ex, I think.
Next, let x,y be the location of the third charge from A.
For its Ex and Ey due to the 3rd charge (exactly equal to the ones already found) I got something like Ex = kqx/Z, where Z is (x² + y²) to the power 3/2 for that after expressing the cos A in terms of x and the hypotenuse. A similar expression for Ey. Now I have two equations in x and y to solve simultaneously. I solved one for Z, subbed into the other and immediately got x =3y. (Better check that!) Only a little more work to get the actual values for x and y as simple multiples of d. Much, much less work than you did!
 
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FAQ: Finding charge so that the electric field is zero

How do I determine the charge needed to make the electric field zero?

The charge needed to make the electric field zero can be determined by using the formula E = kq/r^2, where E is the electric field, k is the Coulomb's constant, q is the charge, and r is the distance from the charge. Set E equal to zero and solve for q to find the required charge.

Can the electric field ever be zero?

Yes, the electric field can be zero at a specific point in space if the charges are arranged in such a way that their electric fields cancel each other out. This can occur when equal and opposite charges are placed a certain distance apart or when multiple charges are arranged in a symmetrical pattern.

What is the significance of having a zero electric field?

A zero electric field indicates that there is no net force acting on a charged particle at that point. This can be useful in certain applications, such as creating a stable environment for sensitive electronic equipment, or in designing circuits that require a specific charge distribution.

Is it possible for the electric field to be zero everywhere?

No, it is not possible for the electric field to be zero everywhere. If the electric field is zero at a specific point, it means that the net force on a charged particle at that point is zero. However, there will still be non-zero electric fields in other areas due to the presence of other charges.

How does finding the charge to make the electric field zero relate to neutral objects?

Neutral objects have equal amounts of positive and negative charge, which means that the electric field at any point on the surface of the object will be zero. However, finding the charge to make the electric field zero is more relevant for non-neutral objects, where the distribution of charges may not be balanced, and a specific charge may need to be added or removed to achieve a zero electric field at a certain point.

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