Programs Finding Direction: Deciding Majors for 2nd Year Undergrad

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The discussion centers on the challenges of choosing a major and career path in the fields of physics, mathematics, and engineering. A second-year undergraduate expresses uncertainty about pursuing a double major in physics and mathematics due to concerns about job prospects in academia and industry. Alternatives considered include switching to a double major in physics and engineering or pursuing a Master's in engineering. Participants emphasize the importance of personal interest in the chosen field, suggesting that job prospects for physics PhDs can be favorable, particularly in finance, where starting salaries can reach up to $130,000 in New York. They highlight the value of programming skills, especially in languages like C++, for securing jobs in finance. The conversation concludes with a plan to continue with a double major in math and physics, with the option of pursuing a Master's in engineering if a PhD is not desired later on.
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Hello. I am going into my second year of undergraduate education. I was originally planning to double major in physics and mathematics, and afterwards pursue a PhD in physics. However, I am currently undecided due to career prospects since the field is now difficult for both academia and industry, from what I’ve read. I am thinking I might double major in physics and engineering instead, so I can be an engineer as a backup plan. Or engineering and mathematics? Or pursue a Master's in engineering? I am lost right now, and need advice. Thank you very much.
 
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Ignore job prospects for a moment. What do you want to do? Math? Physics? Engineering? There's no point in majoring or minoring in something that you're not going to enjoy.
 
I'm pretty much exactly like you (second year Physics and Math, and was thinking about switching to engineering) so I've thought about this a lot myself. The conclusion I came to was that job prospects for Physics (or math) PhD's are not bad at all, especially if you're willing to relocate to NY and work in finance and I think a very experienced person on this forum (twofish-quant) would agree with me on that. According to him starting salaries for a Physics PhD's working in finance in NY can be upto 130k and within a few years cross the 200k mark. Furthermore, if you can gain a significant amount of programming experience while doing your PhD, jobs as a programmer aren't hard to find either. From what I've heard jobs are poor in academia though, so as long as you're willing to leave academia, I think you should be fine with a Physics PhD.

After you are done with your bachelors and you decide that a PhD isn't for you, you can always go for a masters in engineering and then work as an engineer from there on. So my current plan is to continue double majoring in Math and Physics, maybe minor in an engineering discipline that I may find interesting, and if I don't feel like doing a PhD anymore, get a masters in engineering. Otherwise, I'm going to get a PhD and hopefully it should be fine job-wise.

Edit: For those finance jobs significant programming experience (especially in C++) is highly desirable, right twofish?
 
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