Finding Displacement of Elevator in Accelerating Frame

In summary, the conversation discusses the displacement of a ball thrown upward in an accelerating elevator and the use of equations to determine the displacement of the elevator. The initial velocity of the elevator is unknown, but it is determined that a pseudo force can be used to calculate the displacement. Ultimately, the correct equation is given as (2v0 - gt)/t.
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Homework Statement


A boy standing in an elevator accelerating upward throws a ball upward with a vo.
The ball returns to his hands after time t. The acceleration of the lift is

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The Attempt at a Solution


After time t, displacement of the ball = displacement of the lift
vo t - 1/2 gt2 = ?
What should the displacement of the lift be?
According to me, it should be ut + 1/2at2.
Problem is, I don't know what the initial velocity of the lift is, i.e. what u is.
What do I do?
 
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The quantity v0 is probably to be interpreted as the initial velocity of the ball relative to the elevator. You are writing equations relative to the ground. So, what is the initial velocity of the ball relative to the ground?
 
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You are likely expected to understand that the velocity v0 is the velocity of the ball relative to the elevator. You can make any assumption on the velocity of the elevator, it should not affect the result - simply assume it is an undetermined velocity u.
 
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Ok thank you!
So, displacement of the body in the frame of the elevator is 0 in time t, and so I can consider a pseudo force a on the elevator.
v0t - 1/2 (g+a) t^2 = 0
a= (2v0 - gt)/t
 
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Correct.
 

FAQ: Finding Displacement of Elevator in Accelerating Frame

1. What is the Kinematics elevator problem?

The Kinematics elevator problem is a type of physics problem that involves calculating the motion of an elevator using concepts from kinematics, such as displacement, velocity, and acceleration.

2. How do you solve a Kinematics elevator problem?

To solve a Kinematics elevator problem, you first need to identify the known and unknown variables, such as the initial and final positions of the elevator, the time it takes to move between them, and the acceleration. Then, you can use equations such as d = v0t + ½at2 and v = v0 + at to solve for the unknown variables.

3. What are the common assumptions made when solving a Kinematics elevator problem?

Some common assumptions made when solving a Kinematics elevator problem include assuming that the elevator moves at a constant speed, neglecting air resistance, and assuming that the elevator starts and stops at rest.

4. Can you use Kinematics equations to solve for the motion of an elevator with a changing acceleration?

Yes, Kinematics equations can still be used to solve for the motion of an elevator with a changing acceleration. However, in this case, the equations will need to be integrated to account for the changing acceleration.

5. How is the Kinematics elevator problem related to real-life scenarios?

The Kinematics elevator problem is related to real-life scenarios, such as riding in an elevator or a rollercoaster. It also has applications in engineering and designing efficient elevator systems. Additionally, understanding kinematics can help explain the motion of various objects, from cars to planets, in our everyday lives.

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