Finding geodesics on a cone of infinite height

In summary, the problem is to find the geodesics on a cone with an infinite height, given by the equation x^{2}+y^{2} = \tan{\alpha}^{2}z^{2} in polar coordinates (x,y,z)=(r\cos{\psi},r\sin{\psi},z) with z=r\tan(\alpha). The question involves finding the element dz^{2} and using Lagrange multipliers to solve the problem.
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Homework Statement


Find the geodesics on a cone of infinite height, [itex]x^{2}+y^{2} = \tan{\alpha}^{2}z^{2}[/itex] using polar coordinates [itex](x,y,z)=(r\cos{\psi},r\sin{\psi},z) with z=r\tan(\alpha)[/itex]
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The Attempt at a Solution



I am not sure with how should I expres the element [itex]dz^{2}[/itex] ? When it is a function of α (My calculus was always weak especially stuff with creating a derivative by dividing...)

Thanks.
 
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Leb said:
with ##z=r\tan(\alpha)##
The question is wrong there. They mean ##z=r\cot(\alpha)##
α is a constant, r2 = x2+y2. You can obtain an expression for dz in terms of x, y, z, dx and dy. Does that help?
 
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Thanks haruspex!

I just tried to write them down like this:

[itex]dx=\cos(\psi) dr - r\sin (\psi) d\psi[/itex]
[itex]dy=\sin(\psi) dr + r\cos (\psi) d\psi[/itex]
[itex]dz=\cot (\alpha) dr[/itex]
and
[itex]ds = \sqrt{(1+\cot^{2}(\alpha))dr^{2}+r^{2}d\psi^{2}}[/itex]
taking dr^{2} out of the square root and calling the constant term as k
[itex]ds = \sqrt{k+r^{2}\frac{d\psi^{2}}{dr^{2}}}dr[/itex] And now to integrate with limits from zero to infinity ? (Does not matter since we are looking for L (Lagrangian), right ?)

Update
OK, so I think I have found a solution, [itex]r_{0}=const=r\cos(\frac{\psi + C}{\sqrt{k}})[/itex] I now should do it with lagrange multipliers. Will I get the same answer up to a constant ?
 
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FAQ: Finding geodesics on a cone of infinite height

What is a geodesic on a cone of infinite height?

A geodesic on a cone of infinite height is a curve that follows the shortest path between two points on the surface of the cone. This is similar to the concept of a straight line on a flat surface, but on a curved surface like a cone, it takes on a unique shape.

How do you find geodesics on a cone of infinite height?

To find geodesics on a cone of infinite height, you can use the geodesic equations, which are a set of differential equations that describe the path of a geodesic. These equations take into account the curvature of the cone and can be solved to determine the shape of the geodesic.

What is the significance of finding geodesics on a cone of infinite height?

Finding geodesics on a cone of infinite height has various uses in mathematics and physics. For example, it can be used to study the behavior of particles moving on a curved surface or to optimize the path of a spacecraft orbiting a cone-shaped object.

Are there any limitations to finding geodesics on a cone of infinite height?

Yes, there are some limitations to finding geodesics on a cone of infinite height. One limitation is that the cone must have a well-defined curvature for the geodesic equations to be applicable. Additionally, the calculations can become more complex for cones with non-uniform curvature or for higher dimensions.

Can geodesics on a cone of infinite height be visualized?

Yes, geodesics on a cone of infinite height can be visualized using 3D computer models or physical models. These models can help to understand the shape and behavior of geodesics on a cone and can also be used to make predictions and test theories about their properties.

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