Finding Local Max/Min of Complex Function

In summary: However, if you're asking about a general function, it's impossible to say for sure whether or not it has a local maximum or minimum.
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Homework Statement



How can i determine whether a complex function has any local maximum or minimum?

Homework Equations



let's consider the case f(z)=z* (conjugate of z)
z=x+iy

The Attempt at a Solution



f(z)=z*=x-iy

how do i see if it has local max or min?

Thank you
 
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[tex]f(z)~=~z\bar{z}~=~(x + iy)(x - iy)~=~x^2 + y^2[/tex]
So f(z) is purely real, for any complex number z. It looks to me like it has an absolute minimum but no maximum.
 
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how do you know it has an absolute minimum?
 
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x and y are real numbers. Both x2 and y2 are always nonnegative, so their sum will also always be nonnegative.
 
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i agree, but why does this have anything to do with max/min?
 
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The minimum value of your f(z) is 0 and there is no maximum value. Are you asking about complex functions in general, or about this one?
 
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im asking in general.
if we look at your example, f(z)=zz*
then why is there a minimum?
 
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If you're asking in general, then you would be looking at the derivative and seeing where it's zero, and testing the critical points.

You're overthinking your example (it's not mine). You have f(z) = zz* = x2 + y2, where z = a + bi. For this particular function, it's very easy - almost trivial - to discover that the minimum value is 0 (for z = 0 + 0i), and that the function is unbounded. For any real numbers x and y, x2 [itex]\geq[/itex] 0 and y2 [itex]\geq[/itex] 0, which means that x2 + y2 [itex]\geq[/itex] 0.

If you think about it graphically, the complex plane is the domain and the image of the function is a paraboloid that opens upward and whose vertex is at (0, 0).
 
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oh, so the graph would be like y=x^2 in real coordinate system
?

how did you know that f=x^2+y^2 looks like that in the complex plane?
 
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sara_87 said:
oh, so the graph would be like y=x^2 in real coordinate system
?

how did you know that f=x^2+y^2 looks like that in the complex plane?
Not in the complex plane. The complex plane is the domain.
I know what it looks like because I know what the graph of z = x2 + y2 looks like in R3. The only thing different is that the domain in one of these is the complex plane and in the other it's the real x-y plane.
 
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ok, so it's in 3d. I get it now, so we have: z=x^2+y^2 not f(z)=x^2+y^2
right?
 
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In the original post, you asked "How can i determine whether a complex function has any local maximum or minimum?".

In general, the question doesn't make any sense because the complex numbers aren't ordered. Which is larger, 3 + 4i or 4 + 3i?

You have given a particular function that happens to have real values, which is why your particular problem makes sense.
 

FAQ: Finding Local Max/Min of Complex Function

What is a local maximum/minimum of a complex function?

A local maximum/minimum of a complex function is a point where the function reaches either the highest or lowest value in a specific region, but not necessarily the highest or lowest value overall. This means that there may be other points in the function that have higher or lower values, but they are not within the specified region.

How do I find the local maximum/minimum of a complex function?

To find the local maximum/minimum of a complex function, you first need to determine the critical points of the function. This can be done by taking the derivative of the function and setting it equal to 0. Then, you can use the first or second derivative test to determine if the critical point is a local maximum or minimum.

What is the difference between a local maximum/minimum and a global maximum/minimum?

A local maximum/minimum is a point in the function where it reaches the highest or lowest value in a specific region, while a global maximum/minimum is the highest or lowest value of the entire function. This means that a global maximum/minimum is also a local maximum/minimum, but not all local maximum/minimum points are global maximum/minimum points.

Can a complex function have multiple local maximum/minimum points?

Yes, a complex function can have multiple local maximum/minimum points. This can occur when the function has multiple peaks or valleys within a specific region, and each one is the highest or lowest value within that region.

How does finding the local maximum/minimum of a complex function relate to real-world applications?

Finding the local maximum/minimum of a complex function is important in many real-world applications, such as optimization problems in economics, engineering, and physics. It allows us to find the most efficient or optimal solution within a specific range of values, rather than just the overall maximum or minimum.

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