Finding Magnetic Field for Bending Magnet - Help

In summary, the conversation is about a young researcher from FermiLab seeking help in calculating the magnetic field necessary to bend a k+ beam 45° through a 38° sector bending magnet. The researcher and their partner have been working on this problem for several days and have considered using a reference trajectory, but they are unsure if their calculations are accurate due to factors like the difference in radii of curvature and lateral forces. The suggestion is made to use a computer simulation or particle tracking software for more accurate results.
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Hey everyone. I'm new here, but I figured I would jump right in.

First of all, if this forum is anything like the forum I regularly participate in, then if this thread is in the wrong section, go ahead and move it to where it belongs, mods!

I am a young (very young) researcher at FermiLab and, in my project, the problem I am currently encountering is one of calculating the magnetic field necessary to bend a k+ beam 45° through a 38° sector bending magnet.

More in depth, the issue stems from the change in radius of curvature. Our magnet has an arclength of .8m along the central trajectory, however this only forms a 38° sector. (This yields a radius of curvature of 1.206m.)

Due to the nature of k+ decay, the experimental design we are working with dictates a 3.5° pole-face rotation on both sides of the bending magnet in order to achieve focusing. However, because we are only using a 38° magnet, we also need to increase the strength of the magnetic field in order to achieve the correct 45° bend required to meet the 3.5° + 3.5° + 38° = 45° bending requirement.

The problem, then, is calculating the B-field necessary to push our k+ through the magnet with the correct trajectory.

My partner and I have worked for several days on this problem and keep on running into a similar problem.

The best way we have figured out to attempt to solve this problem is working with a reference trajectory. Our reference k+ starts at the left end of the sector bend, angled 3.5° upwards. The particle then travels through the magnet, its trajectory changing by 45 degrees within the magnet, and comes out angled downward 3.5°, thereby achieving a focusing effect downstream.

One basic assumption we made previously, which I am now questioning, is the following: assuming the correct magnetic field for the bend described above, will distance between the entry and exit points be the same as if the same k+ went through the 38° bending magnet straight on with a B-field tuned to bend it exactly 38°?

If that is true, then we may be on the right track - that implies that the chord formed by the entry and exit of the magnet in both cases are the same, despite turning through different angles and having different radii of curvature - we could then do this (assuming the above is correct):

[itex]\left(2\right) \left(1.206\right) \sin(\frac{38°}{2}) = \left(2\right) \left(R\right) \sin(\frac{45°}{2})[/itex]

This would allow us to calculate the radius of curvature necessary for the particle traveling through the magnet to achieve a 45° bend, thus allowing us to calculate the B-field necessary to make this bend (using simple centripetal acceleration and the Lorentz force).

I wouldn't be posting this if that worked, though!

I think there may be something we are missing because of the entry and exit angles... but this is where we are stuck.

Just as a reference, I'll throw up a picture I drew in paint (I multiplied all angles by 2 to make it easier to depict).

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/50345936/38%20sector%20bend.png

Green is what I want, where the reference particle, while not passing through the center of the magnet, comes out at the exact center, not off axis at all. However, notice that it does enter the bending magnet with an angle of 7 degrees relative to the pole-face, which is required for the focusing effects of the bending magnet to take place. Red is what would happen in the case where the magnet's B-field was tuned to turn it exactly 84 degrees. The question raised above is depicted here - would the paths really intersect at the end of the sector bend assuming they entered at the same location?

Thanks everyone for taking the time to help a noobie out!
 
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Hello and welcome to the forum! It's great to have someone from FermiLab here.

First of all, I just want to clarify that I am not an expert in particle physics, but I do have some experience with magnetic fields and particle accelerators. From what I understand, your problem is to calculate the necessary magnetic field to bend a k+ beam 45° through a 38° sector bending magnet.

I think your approach of using a reference trajectory is a good start. However, I believe there are a few things that you may need to consider in your calculations.

Firstly, the radius of curvature of the beam will not be the same for the two scenarios you mentioned (using a 38° magnet and using a magnet tuned to bend 84°). This is because the beam will experience different levels of acceleration and hence, different radii of curvature. So, the equation you have mentioned may not be applicable here.

Secondly, when the beam enters the magnet at an angle, it will experience a lateral force in addition to the centripetal force. This lateral force will cause the beam to deviate from its initial trajectory, which may affect its final trajectory. This can be accounted for by using the appropriate equations for charged particles in a magnetic field.

Lastly, I would suggest using a computer simulation or a particle tracking software to accurately calculate the required magnetic field. This will take into account all the variables and complexities of the experiment.

I hope this helps and I wish you all the best in your research! Keep us updated on your progress.
 

Related to Finding Magnetic Field for Bending Magnet - Help

1. How do I calculate the magnetic field for a bending magnet?

To calculate the magnetic field for a bending magnet, you will need to know the strength of the magnet, the radius of the bend, and the charge and velocity of the particle being affected by the magnet. You can use the formula B = (mu0 * q * v) / (r * sin(theta)), where B is the magnetic field, mu0 is the permeability of free space, q is the charge of the particle, v is the velocity of the particle, r is the radius of the bend, and theta is the angle between the velocity and the radius of the bend.

2. How do I determine the direction of the magnetic field for a bending magnet?

The direction of the magnetic field for a bending magnet can be determined using the right hand rule. Point your thumb in the direction of the charged particle's velocity, and curl your fingers in the direction of the magnetic field. The direction of your curled fingers will indicate the direction of the magnetic field.

3. How does the strength of the magnet affect the magnetic field in a bending magnet?

The strength of the magnet has a direct effect on the magnetic field in a bending magnet. The stronger the magnet, the stronger the magnetic field will be. This means that a stronger magnet will be able to bend particles with greater force than a weaker magnet.

4. What is the role of the radius of the bend in determining the magnetic field in a bending magnet?

The radius of the bend plays a crucial role in determining the strength of the magnetic field in a bending magnet. A smaller radius will result in a stronger magnetic field, while a larger radius will result in a weaker magnetic field. This is because the smaller radius allows for a tighter bend, resulting in a more concentrated magnetic field.

5. How does the angle between the particle's velocity and the radius of the bend affect the magnetic field in a bending magnet?

The angle between the particle's velocity and the radius of the bend, also known as the deflection angle, affects the strength of the magnetic field in a bending magnet. The larger the deflection angle, the stronger the magnetic field will be. This is because a larger deflection angle means that the particle is experiencing a greater force from the magnetic field, resulting in a stronger bend.

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