Finding Max Spring Compression for Firefighter Fall

In summary, the problem involves a 60kg firefighter sliding down a pole with a frictional force of 300N and a 20.0kg platform supported by a spring with a constant of 2500N/m. The firefighter starts from rest 5.00m above the platform and the maximum distance the spring is compressed is being sought. The solution involves using conservation of energy to find the potential energy of the firefighter and the energy lost to friction, which will determine the compression of the spring. The weight of the platform also needs to be considered in the calculation. The answer choices provided are a. 0.25m, b. 2.15m, c. 1.14m, d. 47
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Homework Statement


A 60.kg firefighter slides down a pole while a constant frictional force of 300N retards his motion. A horizontal 20.0kg platform is supported by a spring at the bottom of the pole to cushion the fall. The firefghter stars from rest 5.00m above the platform, and the spring constant is 2500N/m. Find the maxiumum distance the spring is compressed.


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I did this multiple times, and hte method that made most sense to me was to find difference in work, energy after loss, and the speed just before hitting the platform, THEN to use momentum to calculate the speed of both the person and the board. Using that, find the max compression of the spring.. There are 5 choices of answers

a. 0.25m
b. 2.15m
c. 1.14m
d. 47 m
e. 105m

I'm pretty sure I've doen something wrong. Any help will be gladly appreciated
 
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You can use conservation of energy for this problem. I don’t think you need to worry about momentum or the velocity of impact. You can find the potential energy of the firefighter with respect to the platform, and you can easily work out what he loses to friction as he goes down the pole. The result of this is the energy that can be used to compress the spring, so you can find out the distance it moves. I think you also have to consider how much the weight of the platform itself is compressing the spring, before the firefighter lands on it. The sum of these two components will be the total compression of the spring.
 
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Assuming there are no external forces acting on the system, we can use the conservation of energy principle to solve this problem. Initially, the firefighter has potential energy due to his height above the platform, which is converted into kinetic energy as he slides down the pole. However, the frictional force acting against him reduces the amount of kinetic energy he has when he reaches the platform.

To find the maximum compression of the spring, we need to find the point where all of the firefighter's kinetic energy is transferred into the spring's potential energy. This occurs when his velocity is reduced to zero, meaning all of his kinetic energy has been converted into potential energy of the spring.

Using the conservation of energy equation, we can set the initial potential energy equal to the final potential energy of the spring:

mgh = 1/2kx^2

Where m is the mass of the firefighter, g is the acceleration due to gravity, h is the initial height of the firefighter, k is the spring constant, and x is the maximum compression distance of the spring.

Substituting in the values given in the problem, we get:

(60kg)(9.8m/s^2)(5.00m) = 1/2(2500N/m)(x^2)

2940 = 1250x^2

x^2 = 2.352

x = √2.352 = 1.53m

Therefore, the maximum compression distance of the spring is 1.53m, which is closest to answer choice C.
 

FAQ: Finding Max Spring Compression for Firefighter Fall

How do you determine the maximum spring compression needed for firefighter fall protection?

The maximum spring compression needed for firefighter fall protection can be determined by calculating the maximum impact force that a firefighter may experience during a fall from a specific height. This can be done using the formula F=ma, where F is the impact force, m is the mass of the firefighter, and a is the acceleration due to gravity (9.8 m/s²). The resulting force can then be used to determine the spring constant of the spring needed to compress and absorb the impact force.

What factors affect the maximum spring compression needed for firefighter fall?

There are several factors that can affect the maximum spring compression needed for firefighter fall protection. These include the height from which the firefighter may fall, the weight of the firefighter, the type and design of the spring system, and the desired level of impact force absorption. Other factors such as environmental conditions and the type of surface the firefighter may fall onto may also play a role.

How do you test the maximum spring compression for firefighter fall protection?

The maximum spring compression for firefighter fall protection can be tested using specialized equipment such as a drop test machine. The firefighter's weight and protective gear are simulated, and the test is conducted by dropping the weighted dummy from various heights onto the spring system. The resulting impact forces are measured, and the data is used to determine the maximum spring compression needed for effective fall protection.

Are there any safety standards or regulations for determining the maximum spring compression for firefighter fall protection?

Yes, there are safety standards and regulations set by organizations such as the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) that outline the requirements for spring systems used in firefighter fall protection. These standards ensure that the spring systems are designed and tested to provide adequate protection for firefighters during falls.

Can the maximum spring compression for firefighter fall protection be adjusted for different scenarios?

Yes, the maximum spring compression for firefighter fall protection can be adjusted for different scenarios. This can be done by adjusting the spring constant of the spring system or by incorporating additional safety features such as shock absorbers or energy-dissipating materials. The design of the spring system can also be optimized for specific fall heights and weights of firefighters to provide the most effective protection.

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